Who do you think will win on friday night?

Probable line ups:

Hull FC:
McDonnell
Crookes
Arundel
Yeaman
Briscoe
Holdsworth
Miller
Green
Heremia
Watts
Tickle
Whiting
Pitts

Bowden
Horne
Johnson
Westerman

Bulls:
1 Kearney
2 Foster
3 Lulia
4 Wood
5 Kear
6 Sammut
7 Gale
8 Scruton
9 Diskin
10 Manuokafoa
11 Bateman
12 Evans
13 Donaldson
subs
langley
addy
l estrange
olbison

Another SL fixture in urgent need of reasons to justify it's existence because whatever the result, it's just another irrelevance among many.

Major structural change to the game cannot come fast enough IMHO.

Because of course, if were to have the team in 12th relegated, and a top 5 play-off system, this major structural change will highlight the importance of a game between 8th and 10th.

As Wigan V Widnes showed us all last night, when there is meaning imparted in to the game and every game counts, we are guaranteed close and hard fought games………….no really.

I'm pretty sure that Hull and Bradford are currently 8th and 10th because they can relax in the knowledge that those licensed positions of mediocrity are rewarded with 1) still being in a play-off spot or still in sight of a play-off spot, and... 2) safe in the knowledge they can finish as low as they like yet still be rewarded for it and continue to be awarded a licence to be as mediocre as they like.


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im pretty sure that in a 12 team league under any structure we will have someone in 10th and someone else in 8th. whether threatened with relegation or rewarded with a play-off place or not.





that is amongst your worst.

Bradford by 14.

Hull by 8

Hull to win, but what I seem to find odd is that people think any game is irelevent? its 80 minuets of rugby league what more do you want? under the top of the pre play off system if it were in use now most of the games this weekend would be meaningless there are only three teams that could win it & at the bottom only two would go down that leaves nine with nothing to play for. It just make me curious as to what people expect ? under either system only one club can win the others are only making up the numbers.

Bradford win due to home advantage.

Prediction made due to you being a dobbin.

Another poor choice of fixture chosen by Sky on Friday night

Don't watch it then, no one is forcing you to. I'd rather watch a few of the lesser teams. I get fed up of watching Leeds, Wire and Wigan almost every week.

I'll be in person watching watching the most interesting fixture of the night in LS6

Best comment ive read on here for a while, Hull need points to consolidate their position ahead of wakefield, where as if we hit a good run of form still a chance we can make the play offs!

Interesting spin that.

Another way of looking at it is if it were a 12 team league with relegation and a 5 team play off it would be a really interesting and important game with Hull 4pts behind 5th spot and Bradford 2 pts above 12th.

That sounds a belting game to me now.

It possibly would be, if we forgot how it worked in a 12 team, top 5 league. Under a 12 team league, no team to finish 12th ever scored more than 16 points. Bradford already have 16 points. They would be safe.

And Hull Fc would need ALL of Catalans, Hull KR, Saints to lose half of their remaining games (saints and Les Catalans play each other as well making it even more difficult) whilst Hull FC won all 6 of their remaining games for them to qualify, a pretty unlikely sequences of events.

It would be a mid-table dead rubber.

Besides, the more obvious question is, why, If Hull being 4 points from the play-offs is exciting, Bradford being 4 points off the play-offs (as they are now) isnt just as exciting? and Why if Bradford being 2 points ahead of 12th is exciting, Hull FC being only 1 point ahead of 9th isnt?

All of this is irrelevant. It'll be Hull by 20. Having a bit more incentive won't change that.

But Bradford wouldn't be on 16 points, take away the points they have against the bottom 2 teams and they would be on 10 points. They wouldn't be safe.

And Hull wouldn't need Catalans, Hull KR and Saints to lose half of their remaining games, that's rubbish. They play Hull KR & Saints, which would put them above Saints and only 2 pts behind KR. All it would take is this weekend Catalans lose and Hull win and they're right in it.

Bradford being 4 poiints off the playoffs now isn't as exciting because, with respect, they're a poor team and in a rebuilding period. A team good enough to get into 5th is good enough to have a go in the playoffs, Hull have proved already this year they're a cracking side when at full strength.

To be honest if you look at SL this weekend and look at what the fixtures would mean if it was 12 teams, 5 team playoff and bottom team relegated:

Bradford v Hull, see above.

Leeds v Wakey: Leeds would have to win to stay in the top 5, Wakey to close the gap on them. In reality, Leeds can rest up, not an important game. Exciting for Wakey as they're in the top 8 if they win.

Huddersfield v Cas. Huddersfield fighting for top spot, Cas fighting for their life. In reality, Huddersfield are still fighting for 1st, to Cas its a freindly.

Wire v Hull KR: Wire fighting for 1st, KR Fighting for playoffs. In reality Wire fighting for 1st, KR are pretty safe in the playoffs.

Saints v Wigan: Not really muchd difference in this game, but I think Saints fans know that even if they do qualify for the playoffs in 8th, bottom half of the table, they are nowhere near good enough to get near the Grand Final.

We absolutely have to rest up, we're currently one position above where we want to be.

If we start imagining a different season we are going to get into the bounds of the ridiculous really.

its simple maths, Hull FC need to gain 6 points on Les Catalans and HKR, there are 6 games left. Hull FC need Les Catalans and HKR to drop 6 points if they are to gain 6 points on them. 6 points is 3 games.

To be fair that seems like an argument you have decided is true because it fits your bias

Hull KR are 5 points from 9th. You have just argued Hull FC would be well in the mix for 5th (which they are 4 points from), it seems very much like clubs are only fighting for things, or not fighting for things when it suits your argument.

Wakefield are 2 points from Hull FC with a game in hand. Hull FC you argued would be challenging for 5th. Yet you are now arguing HKR in 7th are safe?

Bradford by 40, hopefully

Actually we only need Catalans and KR to drop 2 games. Our PD is better than both of them. Both have got tough run ins. I think Catalans will win 3 out of 6 and Rovers 2 of 6. This game is important for Hull and not just for consolidating 8th place.

If Hull write off the Wigan away game we need to beat Bradford (a), Widnes (h), Rovers (a), Salford (h) and Saints (h) and that will get 5th imo. Hull will be favourites in all of those games.