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BBC will televise 2 Challenge Cup matches this weekend: Wigan vs St Helens Saturday at 14.15 on BBC One and Catalans vs Warrington Sunday at at 14.45 on BBC Two.
The commentators on BBC One are the superb Dave Woods and the [itoujours stupide[/i Jonathan Davies.
The commentators on BBC Two are [ile retraite [/iRay French and [iencore stupide[/i Jonathan Davies.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hpwrq
So Wigan vs St Helens has the prestige coverage and Catalans vs Warrington fans are insulted twice. The match is on BBC Two, which is the second channel. And the match is commentated not by the number 1 rugby league commentator in Britain, Dave Woods, but by a very old and sometimes confused man named Ray French along with Davies.
We have to ask: why is it happening like this? Is French being asked to work in Perpignan because his name is "French?" He can still give fair analysis after something has happened, but often he cannot follow the fast play, he is sometimes confused about the names of the players, and so he should be only in the post match commentary.
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BBC will televise 2 Challenge Cup matches this weekend: Wigan vs St Helens Saturday at 14.15 on BBC One and Catalans vs Warrington Sunday at at 14.45 on BBC Two.
The commentators on BBC One are the superb Dave Woods and the [itoujours stupide[/i Jonathan Davies.
The commentators on BBC Two are [ile retraite [/iRay French and [iencore stupide[/i Jonathan Davies.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hpwrq
So Wigan vs St Helens has the prestige coverage and Catalans vs Warrington fans are insulted twice. The match is on BBC Two, which is the second channel. And the match is commentated not by the number 1 rugby league commentator in Britain, Dave Woods, but by a very old and sometimes confused man named Ray French along with Davies.
We have to ask: why is it happening like this? Is French being asked to work in Perpignan because his name is "French?" He can still give fair analysis after something has happened, but often he cannot follow the fast play, he is sometimes confused about the names of the players, and so he should be only in the post match commentary.
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| Are you kidding? Ideally we wouldn't have to suffer either of them, but I'd rather listen to an hour of Ray French than a minute of Woods horrendous anorak-like commentary style. Along with Ben Proe, Dave Woods is one of the only RL commentators that makes the programming virtually unwatchable for me.
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| I like old Ray, Woods is very irritating at times
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The match is on BBC Two, which is the second channel.'"
Of course its on BBC 2, they are not going to risk upsetting an entire nation of pathetic drivel addicted EastEnders 'fans' to show them something entertaining.
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| Teach Andy Gray about RL and get him in
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| Im another that'd rather listen to Ray than Woods.
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| Woods is by far better than French.
French can't say people's names correctly, he's always saying eeeeerr to fill in gaps whilst he's trying to remember something (which is all the time) and he just can't keep up with play.
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| Ray French is the worst commentator on the planet and the Beeb know this.
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| None of them are any good to be perfectly honest, rarely do they ever say anything that a true fan would say so nothing ever controversial that might upset the RFL (like criticism of the officials when they furk up)
RF was pretty good BITD but is a bit too long in the tooth & far to many errors though till has a far better style than Woods IMO.
Davies isn't a commentator, he's just the side kick analyser, nothing more, just that he gets a bit hyper critical at times.
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"Of course its on BBC 2, they are not going to risk upsetting an entire nation of pathetic drivel addicted EastEnders 'fans' to show them something entertaining.'"
It's the BBC1 coverage of the Spanish Grand Prix that overlaps with the Challenge Cup kick off on Sunday. IIRC I read that the Eastenders omnibus has been moved to a late night slot now.
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| Don't fret - with Monsieur French in the seat, you'll enjoy finding out where each player played his amateur rugby and what his Dad/Uncle/Grandad was like. It will also be amusing to hear him try to get his bouche round the Catalans players names.
Meanwhile, Davies will do his best Marvin the Paranoid Android impression in the background, in a valiant attempt to spoil it for everyone.
Watching a game on the BBC always reminds me how good the Sky coverage actually is.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Watching a game on the BBC always reminds me how good the Sky coverage actually is.'"
Indeed, you wouldn't catch Sky having a commentary duo that is past their sell by date...
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| Quote ="piemandan"Ray French is the worst commentator on the planet and the Beeb know this.'"
You've obviously never listened to BBC Radio Humberside then?
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| Quote ="Leeds_Rhydon"Indeed, you wouldn't catch Sky having a commentary duo that is past their sell by date...'"
I'm no fan of Eddie and Stevo, but at least their inane ramblings are accompanied by HD and decent camera angles - the BBC coverage always looks like it's done on the cheap.
I do like Clare Balding though.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Don't fret - with Monsieur French in the seat, you'll enjoy finding out where each player played his amateur rugby and what his Dad/Uncle/Grandad was like. [uIt will also be amusing to hear him try to get his bouche round the Catalans players names.[/u
Meanwhile, Davies will do his best Marvin the Paranoid Android impression in the background, in a valiant attempt to spoil it for everyone.
Watching a game on the BBC always reminds me how good the Sky coverage actually is.'"
Fortunately for Ray there are very few French players in the Catalans team.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Fortunately for Ray there are very few French players in the Catalans team.'"
Show's how much you know...
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Fortunately for Ray there are very few French players in the Catalans team.'"
Aigrir des raisins?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Aigrir des raisins?'"
Second in SL and a winnable QF...life is sweet, not sour.
(If my club had been dumb enough to sign Agar for 3 years things would be a tad sour ).
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"Show's how much you know...'"
Yes it does. Well spotted
Only 5 of the starting 13 were french born. Only 8 of the 17. The only SL team in a RL region has 8 French players, very disappointing.....but handy for Ray french
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| Ray French, lovely guy, but is long past his commentating sell by date, and Davies has the most annoying whiney Welsh voice that has me automatically reaching for the handset mute button.
Warrington by 12
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| Ray French talks utter rubbish...
Good job Wire aren't playing Stains...
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Yes it does. Well spotted
Only 5 of the starting 13 were french born. Only 8 of the 17. The only SL team in a RL region has 8 French players, very disappointing.....but handy for Ray french
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Guessing your going off the Leeds game?
I'll take a look at the squad vs sheffield in the cup, 12 out of 17 where french.
Against Wakefield 9 out of the 17
Also 9 out of 17 against hull kr.
Out of the squad listed on the dragons website, 15 out 25 are french, and thats missing people who are pushing there way into the team like Cardace
Yea it was well spotted, you don't know anything.....
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| Quote ="bren2k" I do like Clare Balding though.'"
I do theres something about her.
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