We are lead to believe Quins are playing some decent stuff but they still are not pulling in the crowds. Yes it's Catalans on a Thursday night but it's not really good enough is it?

They never have and probably ever will TBH. lovely people though !

It's bizarre to be honest. The amateur game seems to be doing okay down there but the Quins seem to be dying rapidly. I can understand the Unionites deliberately staying away, I'd do the same if St Helens launched a Guiness Premiership franchise and played in the same kit. But I cannot fathom why they can't must 7 or 8,000 Australasians for the weekly social event that is 'the footy'? People will laugh and say crowds don't matter and that Saints aren't sufficiently attended but the fact is that Quins won't be able to operate with that low an income for very long. If League loses it's geographical dot in terms of the UK, Sky will laugh in our faces and knock a 0 off the next TV deal.

But what can be done?

Oh yeah the fans they've got are great and it's a superb stadium, just crowds need to rise.

The reason that our crowds are bad is quite simple:

Lack of effort (probably due to lack of money or lack of effective management of money or both),

We now have a “general manager” whose stated number 1, 2, 3 priorities are to get more bums on seats. On the evidence so far, I'd hate to know what will happen to the 4th and 5th priorities.

keep the faith guys, its hard getting bums on seats without success - i know i've followed Huddersfield for 20+ years, for the die hard London fans sake i hope you lot can do what we have however long it takes !!

Thursday night game, great idea.

There can be no excuses, 2500 is a pretty bad crowd. Problem is we can't just sack them off because of crowds they are too important.

I think our only option is to persist with them at Quins. The worst thing would be to move them again.

The Dragons brought a decent number of supporters and they were certainly very vocal. I was impressed.

Yes it's a bummer for away fans



We have them all the time in the vibrant worth winning in its own right league

I thought we were continuing our boycott of the Quins home ground - we will never give our hated rivals a penny!

Are the crowds likely to go up at all during the summer? would more people / more union fans attend when the guiness is over.

A bad crowd, even by Quins standards, but there isn't going to be as many for a Thursday night game I would imagine. The RFL needs to persist with Quins though, the game needs a presence in the capital. The only issue is whether Harlequins can compete on the low income that they will have to cope with because of attendances.

Union fans are the wrong fans to target and I doubt more than a couple of hundred switch between either game.

From my experience in the same way we find Union dull, slow and too messy, they find league dull, predictable and too easy. If your brought up on lineouts and scrums then you appreciate them.

My experience exactly.
Union fans argue if they wanted to watch shuttle runs for 80 minutes they'd go circuit training

Therin lies the truth of the matter

It all starts with the kids , as long as they are trying ' convert ' people they will fail

They need to ' breed ' them

they've been trying for 25 years or more, in various guises, how long does it take to realize it aint gonna happen?

But I wonder what schemes that the marketing managers have devised to get bums on seats.

Does anyone know if they have offered free admission to all registered players 16 and under, and 5 pounds admission for all registered players over 16, with a discount ticket for sale if they bring a paying relative?

We weren't gonna get many through the gate no matter when we played the game but I wouldn't fancy trying to get thru the bank holiday traffic in London.

I stilll think that if the RFL licences London Olympic after the 2012 Olympics (with Toulouse Olympique becoming Toulouse Spacers), based in the Olympic Stadium, then the eastt v west London rivalry will greatly build up popular interest in the game.

Right now, from any London resident's perspective, having one club located way over in Richmond doesn't feel like London is involved in rugby league.

Of course the newspapers would have to get involved. But here I think that the Sun and the Times, being Murdoch owned, would have a motivation to do something in terms of publicity. Perhaps the Daily Mail and others, motivated by the competition, could follow Murdoch papers even though on a smaller scale. If so, we could see 8-10,000 crowds iat London games n 2013.

When they were at Fulham they didn't do to badly.

To many name changes and location changes leads to loss of identity. If Leeds were suddenly bought by a Union side, and the name changed to suit I'd have a serious think about whether I'd attend.

If crowds continue to fall like this next time frranchise comes around and they dont get kicked out and my side does or Wake it will be show how corrupt the RL are.

FFS You make me embarrassed to be a Cas fan

Time to call it a day IMO unfortunately.

Pathetic attendence, never going to work unfortunately.