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| Not postponed or covid related but, forfeited due to lack of fit players ??
A 24 - 0 victory for Wire
Has this EVER happened before and surely a fine or other punishment coming Salford's way ?
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| Wire will now play Huddersfield.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Not postponed or covid related but, forfeited due to lack of fit players ??
A 24 - 0 victory for Wire
Has this EVER happened before and surely a fine or other punishment coming Salford's way ?'"
When you consider that Salford could have just loaned a team from Oldham or Rochdale it does seem quite bizarre.
I understand why Salford have done this from a player welfare perspective. However Ian Blease rubbed me the wrong way with his calls for a draft system. This incident has shown up how little player development Salford actually do.
Salford seem to be a microcosm of Society at present. Providing nothing then asking for an equal share because it is "fair" when in fact them getting nothing would be actually be "fair".
Given that, 2020 is messed up and Salford should not be punished for what are freak circumstances.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"When you consider that Salford could have just loaned a team from Oldham or Rochdale it does seem quite bizarre.
I understand why Salford have done this from a player welfare perspective. However Ian Blease rubbed me the wrong way with his calls for a draft system. This incident has shown up how little player development Salford actually do.
Salford seem to be a microcosm of Society at present. Providing nothing then asking for an equal share because it is "fair" when in fact them getting nothing would be actually be "fair".
Given that, 2020 is messed up and Salford should not be punished for what are freak circumstances.'"
I'm not sure if I agree with you.
Trinity and Cas, who seem to be among the worst affected with covid absentees, have played with heavily weakened sides, just to complete their fixtures and while covid is very much "out of a clubs control", injuries are part and parcel of the game.
If their squad was carrying injuries and was then further hit with multiple "covid omissions" then, I would agree with you but, it would appear that this isn't the case.
Wire get a "freebie" here, both in terms of league points but also, meaning that they have one less game to play, which gifts them an advantage over the other clubs chasing a play off spot and for this alone there has to be some penalty.
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| Can clubs still bring players in on loan ?
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| I think lack of the use of 'loan' players is more about maintaining bubbles (although some clubs don't appear to have been very good at this so far).
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"When you consider that Salford could have just loaned a team from Oldham or Rochdale it does seem quite bizarre.
I understand why Salford have done this from a player welfare perspective. However Ian Blease rubbed me the wrong way with his calls for a draft system. This incident has shown up how little player development Salford actually do.
Salford seem to be a microcosm of Society at present. Providing nothing then asking for an equal share because it is "fair" when in fact them getting nothing would be actually be "fair".
Given that, 2020 is messed up and Salford should not be punished for what are freak circumstances.'"
You expect part-time players who haven't trained to step up and play a Super League game?
Right.
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| It’s just becoming laughable now. No wonder sky are cutting a quarter off the tv rights. Just let the big 3 of saints, Wigan and Leeds play a round robin tournament to decide who wins superleague. At least people will tune in and watch that
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| It will be interesting to see in a couple of weeks whether this result has any influence on the playoffs
The situation is only going to get worse so the sooner we can wrap up the season the better before it deteriorates any further.
I’ve not seen anything about a potential start in 2021 which realistically could be as late as Easter.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"It’s just becoming laughable now. No wonder sky are cutting a quarter off the tv rights. Just let the big 3 of saints, Wigan and Leeds play a round robin tournament to decide who wins superleague. At least people will tune in and watch that'"
It's certainly becoming difficult but, how on earth do you justify Leeds taking part ??
Might as well stick Bradford in there, just for old times sake.
The sport has to be good enough and clever enough to see the season out in some kind of reasonable order.
Next season could certainly start with just as many, if not more, difficulties.
Our clown government went from having some control over the virus, to losing it and we look way more likely to have another full lockdown that we ever do to having spectators back through the turnstiles, without which, every sport, apart from Premier League Football, is in serious jeopardy.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It's certainly becoming difficult but, how on earth do you justify Leeds taking part ?? '"
It was probably more about deliberately leaving Warrington out.
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| I don't see the RFL compliance unit has particularly strong grounds to punish Salford, the constraints they are operating under are self-evident facts, and could not reasonably have been foreseen when the season was originally being planned. The rescheduling of the CC was done by the RFL, and that has ultimately led to difficulties in fulfilling SL fixtures. It's not feasible to pull in random players from the lower leagues who haven't played for months, not on salary cap grounds and not on Covid security grounds. The RFL has a duty to consider player welfare as well as the clubs. As for some clubs being in a stronger position to fall back on academies and reserves; that's a long-term issue that the RFL is already aware of.
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| Interestingly, if Catalan win their next few games and can get past the 15 matches needed to qualify, they could go into the play offs relatively fresh, perhaps having played 5 or 6 games less than the other sides in the semi finals.
Apart from still having to travel, this would be a huge advantage for them.
Then, one decent performance and they're in the GF
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| Quote ="Wanderer"It was probably more about deliberately leaving Warrington out.'"
Although the last 3 SL winners were Leeds, Wigan and St Helens.
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| For perspective..... here's a post taken from the Salford fans site....
[i "Looking at our fixtures for October and scheduled for November is an absolute joke
October 3rd, 8th, 13th, 17th, 23rd, 26th, 30th (7 games in 27 days)
November 2nd, 6th, 8th, 12th (4 games in 10 days)
Total 11 games in 40 days with one of the smallest squads in Super League.
It's amazing we've managed to fulfil our fixtures so far. Super League and the RFL have a duty of care to the players and any punishment would show then up for what they are."[/i
I'd argue not one SL club could cope with that fixture list, let alone one with the smallest squad. Still, at least the mighty Wire have managed to avoid a 6th consecutive beating at the hands of little old Salford.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"For perspective..... here's a post taken from the Salford fans site....
[i"Looking at our fixtures for October and scheduled for November is an absolute joke
October 3rd, 8th, 13th, 17th, 23rd, 26th, 30th (7 games in 27 days)
November 2nd, 6th, 8th, 12th (4 games in 10 days)
Total 11 games in 40 days with one of the smallest squads in Super League.
It's amazing we've managed to fulfil our fixtures so far. Super League and the RFL have a duty of care to the players and any punishment would show then up for what they are."[/i
I'd argue not one SL club could cope with that fixture list, let alone one with the smallest squad. Still, at least the mighty Wire have managed to avoid a 6th consecutive beating at the hands of little old Salford.
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Thats a ridiculous burden on the club, I think Warrington given a freebie 2pts in comparison have had a 16 day break. The RFL should be ashamed of themselves.
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| At least Salford haven’t done what Toronto did and threw in the towel.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats a ridiculous burden on the club, I think Warrington given a freebie 2pts in comparison have had a 16 day break. The RFL should be ashamed of themselves.'"
Think Oliver Roberts played with broken ribs against Saints as well before he went off. While I've got some sympathy with the powers that be I'm not sure they've always covered themselves in glory.
ATEOTD player welfare must be #1 priority. I'm proud of our lads for their commitment to the cause during these crazy times and you won't hear 1 Salford fan criticising the club for putting the players wellbeing first. As for the numpty who posted about getting players in on loan from the Championship....
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats a ridiculous burden on the club, I think Warrington given a freebie 2pts in comparison have had a 16 day break. The RFL should be ashamed of themselves.'"
To be fair I don't think that Warrington have asked for a rest, or the points, it's our opponents that have recently called games and a 16 day break isn't always a blessing.
I'm not sure why Salford's fixture list is so congested over and above the 'burden' of a Challenge Cup Final, which in any event generally interrupts the regular season and the agreed rescheduling to try to ensure that fans might spectate
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"To be fair I don't think that Warrington have asked for a rest, or the points, it's our opponents that have recently called games and a 16 day break isn't always a blessing.
I'm not sure why Salford's fixture list is so congested over and above the 'burden' of a Challenge Cup Final, which in any event generally interrupts the regular season and the agreed rescheduling to try to ensure that fans might spectate'"
I'm having more of a go with the RFL rather than Wire, just using the comparative. Some clubs appear to be cannon fodder at the moment with no consideration for player welfare, it's a shambles.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I'm having more of a go with the RFL rather than Wire, just using the comparative. Some clubs appear to be cannon fodder at the moment with no consideration for player welfare, it's a shambles.'"
I think Rico's feeling a bit tetchy based on what I've just read on the Wire forum.
Poor guy should enjoy the moment.... it's been a while since they've taken points off little old Salford.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"I think Rico's feeling a bit tetchy based on what I've just read on the Wire forum.
Poor guy should enjoy the moment.... it's been a while since they've taken points off little old Salford.
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Ha ha "tetchy" I don't think so 'mystic' Slim, although I'll readily admit that your recent run is a local 'problem' to me as a resident of the city and a genuine interest in the robust health of RL. I was hoping that you'd win the Challenge Cup and perhaps used it to kick on and gain some more support and interest. I took 'my' semi final beating fair and square in a local Holt's PH vault where I watched the game....I got over it.
My comments were in response to posts on the other site, most were one eyed, some were ridiculous. My aim was to open up a discussion on the gamble of running with a thin squad with no apparent back up and a comparative to what I understand to be Wakefield's approach. According that that forum it seems that it is everyone's fault but Salford's..Genuine question is it?
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| Who on the Wakefield forum ha suggested it’s everyone but Salford’s fault. Just some of us have sympathy for them.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Who on the Wakefield forum ha suggested it’s everyone but Salford’s fault. Just some of us have sympathy for them.'"
Apologies for the unintended 'misdirection', the other "forum" is Salford's alternative independent fans forum, not the Wakefield board on here
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| Quote ="Ornery Optimist"You expect part-time players who haven't trained to step up and play a Super League game?
Right.'"
Some championship players are full time, and most train everyday anyway, even if only might be at a local gym (if possible) or at home.
Olly Ashall Bott & Tom Gilmore were signed up by Ottawa, but just 'keeping fit' till pre-season started, and they have done okay whilst playing for Salford.
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