Trying to communicate with you is so painful as you seem to be the most stupid person ever to exist, but let's give it one more go.

I AGREE that Mossop will be an England prop and I also think he will be one of the best we've ever had, but we don't know if this is going to be the case. Many players have looked brilliant when they have come in as a young player but never really hit the heights we expected (see Danny Orr, Chris Thorman, etc). Is less than 50 appearances for Wigan (the majority of which have been from the bench) and 0 (thats zero) international appearances enough to claim that he is going to be a very good or world class player at international level? Answer: is it b0ll0cks!

As for Charnley, exactly the same as Mossop, I agrre he will be better than Briscoe, but Briscoe has proved himself at international level already and played well and scored good tries at that level. Charnley has not. It's that simple. Until he plays international rugby, how can anyone rate him as such?

O' Loughlin is a matter of opinion (who would have thought people have different ones), I don't think he ever has been or ever will be a great international loose forward. Decent but that's about it. I hope he proves me wrong and becomes the greatest ever of all time but he won't. Sculthorpe in his prime was a 5 and O' Loughlin isn't half the player, in my opinion of course.

He actually has more of a point now, Roby would make a world class 13 and does play there often during a game anyhow.

The game is changing, Micky Mac has certainly changed his game to suit this year, but Roby is still excelling in the old role...

to be honest roby's passing off the floor could do with some work i have seen more than one ball go to ground but no player is perfect and he is a class player.

i see what you did there!!!

you gave all the good players a lower mark and all the not so good ones a higher mark kind of like reverse psychology very clever!!

IMO Roby's limitations have been exposed at test level. There's no doubt he works his backside off for 80 minutes week in week out however, I think he lacks the guile to unlock a defense that the likes of Cam Smith (the most obviouse example) posses. His passing is quick but not all that accurate, and tends to be at or behind the receiver instead of infront. Having said that he's still England's best hooker (by some margin at this point). I'd rate him 4/5.

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