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| Last time we played Leigh at home we only just lost in the cup. However since then, they have added some real talent like Ferguson, Sa’u etc.
I’m not expecting a win of course. But what I do want to see is the lads do their best. If they do that and we lose by 30 then I’ll be alright.
Saying that, in attack, I’d like to see us try keep them on their toes. More grubbers to create pressure etc.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Last time we played Leigh at home we only just lost in the cup. However since then, they have added some real talent like Ferguson, Sa’u etc.
I’m not expecting a win of course. But what I do want to see is the lads do their best. If they do that and we lose by 30 then I’ll be alright.
Saying that, in attack, I’d like to see us try keep them on their toes. More grubbers to create pressure etc.'"
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| With the speed of our marker defence Ipape will beat us on his own!
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| Quote ="Nothus"With the speed of our marker defence Ipape will beat us on his own!'" He killed us last time out. We have to nullify his threat as well as the other strike players that they have if we are to have any chance.
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| Must say these sort of games don't have great appeal as it would take an almighty upset for us to win.
That said, Batley showed what is possible. Must say that although I'm no lover of Den Perry (Derek) at Leigh I would laugh if they went up and Fev didn't. I detect a fair bit more humility from some Leigh fans in comparison with some Fev fans this season (albeit mainly on TRL.com)
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Must say these sort of games don't have great appeal as it would take an almighty upset for us to win.
That said, Batley showed what is possible. Must say that although I'm no lover of Den Perry (Derek) at Leigh I would laugh if they went up and Fev didn't. I detect a fair bit more humility from some Leigh fans in comparison with some Fev fans this season (albeit mainly on TRL.com)'"
Been a fantastic owner and chairman for Leigh has Derek.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Last time we played Leigh at home we only just lost in the cup. However since then, they have added some real talent like Ferguson, Sa’u etc.
I’m not expecting a win of course. But what I do want to see is the lads do their best. If they do that and we lose by 30 then I’ll be alright.
Saying that, in attack, I’d like to see us try keep them on their toes. More grubbers to create pressure etc.'"
Do you mean Inu ? Junior Sa'u has signed for Keighley.
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| Thank goodness we kept them to "only" 22 points in the first half. It should have been far more. They're much faster than us, their forwards are attacking together, and every time they get into our 20 they look like scoring.
We're doing the usual - plodding middle attacks, looking flat in defence, boringly predictable last plays, no pressure, and when we do get over their line we drop the ball!
On top of all this, the "crowd" looks very sp for a match against the top of the league.
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| Quote ="bringbackjimmy"Thank goodness we kept them to "only" 22 points in the first half. It should have been far more. They're much faster than us, their forwards are attacking together, and every time they get into our 20 they look like scoring.
We're doing the usual - plodding middle attacks, looking flat in defence, boringly predictable last plays, no pressure, and when we do get over their line we drop the ball!
On top of all this, the "crowd" looks very sp for a match against the top of the league.'"
You would think people didn’t want to watch us get a spanking
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| Gave this one a swerve as I felt that we could potentially be on the end of a battering. Sounds like a lot of other people did too.
It seems that our forwards immobility was exposed big time according to some on social media. Leigh appear to be hitting some fine form as of late.
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| I think the crowd was that sp because we were playing top of the league. Only us sadomasochists turned out today knowing what would happen.
The difference between the sides was clear to see in ever possible way. They cut through us in defence, kept us to 15/20 metres gained on multiple sets and were much stronger and quicker in all departments.
A showcase of the haves vs the have nots.
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| Fans who I class as true supporters go to every game even if its win, lose, or draw.
That's why teams struggle when they start losing.
Fans drop off and clubs struggle to pay wages.
Get behind your team
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| To be fair I own up to my mistakes, I meant Sa’u, but obviously he has gone to Keighley. Yes Inu had joined.
I understand why fans are disillusioned. I really do. However, when walking away from the ground and supporters are saying it’s a disgrace. Need to have a word. It’s professionals against semi pros out there. Their middles simply tired us out and barged over. When there’s full time training involved. It’s bloody hard. This side had practically 70% NRL/SL experience if not 100%.
Anyway, I thought DFJ did okay considering I thought he was going to get hammered at first. Kibula had his best game, maiy defensivley. Hallas ran his blood to water. And I thought Flanagan tried to get under their skin a touch. All in all, better than I expected but still not particularly great.
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| Butler dropping out in warmup disrupted things a bit which won’t have helped. Because we brought Burton in to replace him, losing a decent middle player and replacing him with a back and then we got battered down the middle.
I’m trying to get my head around what the ref was doing. Refs don’t go on the pitch to have a bad game. I can only think it was his definition of a dominant tackle which stuffed us, as it became self fulfilling. Leigh got a dominant tackle, so the ref let them lie on for a couple more seconds than he let us. But that just means their line was set faster and they had a much better chance of another dominant tackle. On the other hand, the ref limited our time we could lie on and so limited our defensive line being set etc etc.
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| Bongser will now frisbee his cap into the room and see what happens.
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| Amone was outstanding. Leigh are a level (or 3) above us but agree with Highlander that the ref allowed Leigh to roll onto, and then lie on the tackle spoiled the spectacle. They were already dominant, winning the ruck, and to just allow them to 3 man on, count to 3, 3 man off made it unwatchable.
I thought we tried. Kibula tried an offload and a lovely kick brought a try. It just wasn't a contest.
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| Sadly this was a foregone conclusion so hardly surprising the crowd was so low. Would've liked to have seen a bit more starch in defence, particularly up the middle.
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| One of the reasons the Leigh forwards make big yards is because they receive the ball at pace and from depth. Consequently they make mor distance when contact is made. This is something we seem incapable of doing and are too flat and too slow. Baldwinson is a prime example of this, a big man who makes very little ground.
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| You only had to look a the front rows during warm up to know what was going to happen.
Conditioning wise Leigh look like a Super League outfit.
The way they set up in attack and defence they look like a Super League outfit.
They support the ball carrier,
The way the carry the ball with pace and aggression onto the defensive line
They have set plays that opened us up like a tin opener - to the point of embarrassment at times it was so easy
Whereas we looked like startled rabbits and could not cope with their size, speed of play, speed of thought and general mobility.
I've still not seen a straight and moving defensive line from us and in part that's down to Walker and Crossley. Yes people love their barnstorming runs but they are a bloody liability in defence and Leigh sat Walker on his 'arris yesterday.
The scary part was how, when they were comprehensively tooling us, they REALLY upped the intensity and properly bullied us after the injury.
Still there was a positive though - We didn't give up and we kept them below 60 when at one point it looked for all the world like a full on, point per minute, blow out was imminent.
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| Well it was about the scoreline I expected, I would be surprised if any Bulls fan paid on the gate yesterday to go watch that tanking. I think my interest is at an all time low, mainly because I'm not sure what I'm backing. Are the club serious about building towards SL or are we happy being mid table Championship? I guess we will have a fair idea when the coach is announced.
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| I think us pushing them so close in the cup probably focused a few minds of Leigh. They're one of the best Championship teams I've seen, even better than Toulouse last year IMO. Irony is, they could be worse next year due to the overseas rule.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Well it was about the scoreline I expected, I would be surprised if any Bulls fan paid on the gate yesterday to go watch that tanking. I think my interest is at an all time low, mainly because I'm not sure what I'm backing. Are the club serious about building towards SL or are we happy being mid table Championship? I guess we will have a fair idea when the coach is announced.'"
Sums up where I am exactly. Not sure if I can accept "settling" for mid table mediocrity. I've done plenty of years of following thick and thin and have plenty of other things to do with my time now. Going to the rugby should be enjoyable and the whole point of the team is surely to try and win every game and aspire to improve? Going through the motions isn't going to attract people to the game. Our glorious leader needs to do more to sell the experience and to show there's actually a point to it all.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Sums up where I am exactly. Not sure if I can accept "settling" for mid table mediocrity. I've done plenty of years of following thick and thin and have plenty of other things to do with my time now. Going to the rugby should be enjoyable and the whole point of the team is surely to try and win every game and aspire to improve? Going through the motions isn't going to attract people to the game. Our glorious leader needs to do more to sell the experience and to show there's actually a point to it all.'"
I’ve got a season ticket but probably not been to half of the games this season.
Pre-COVID I very rarely missed a home game and went to 90% away.
I guess the break made me realise there’s better ways of spending my weekend.
I’m not “out” yet, but I fail to see what Wood and co are going to do to win supporters like me back (and more importantly the ones who have checked out altogether).
I missed Leigh as the score line was predictable, looked like it might rain and despite the improved performance the game vs Dewsbury was depressing to see what a hole Odsal is at the moment.
There was a time I’d happily stand on the terraces in the freezing cold or torrential rain. Those times seem a long time gone.
A decent coaching appointment would be a start. If it’s a cheap option then I can see ST renewal being another nail in the coffin next year.
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| I can certainly empathise with you. There's a lot riding on the next coaching appointment - if they club ever get around to it.
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