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| Something is right here, I believe the bulls tried to sign a youngster sometime in July/August and was refused as they where in special measures, so my question is how long have they been in special measures and how long will they remain in special measures, surely it don’t take this long to sort out, are we in financial trouble because if not then surely we need to be seeking legal advice because if Bradford bulls are a business then there must be a constraint of trading here, especially when it don’t take any and I mean any other club this long to get things sorted
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Something is right here, I believe the bulls tried to sign a youngster sometime in July/August and was refused as they where in special measures, so my question is how long have they been in special measures and how long will they remain in special measures, surely it don’t take this long to sort out, are we in financial trouble because if not then surely we need to be seeking legal advice because if Bradford bulls are a business then there must be a constraint of trading here, especially when it don’t take any and I mean any other club this long to get things sorted'"
Widnes have been in special measures the entire season and were only taken out of it last week. So doesn't bode well for us.
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| Once it gets to a point where the players we want to retain are unable to wait any longer and sign with other clubs, THEN we'll come out of special measures
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Something is right here, I believe the bulls tried to sign a youngster sometime in July/August and was refused as they where in special measures, so my question is how long have they been in special measures and how long will they remain in special measures, surely it don’t take this long to sort out, are we in financial trouble because if not then surely we need to be seeking legal advice because if Bradford bulls are a business then there must be a constraint of trading here, especially when it don’t take any and I mean any other club this long to get things sorted'"
I might be wrong here but I don't think the earlier incident you mention was a result of us being in special measures.
At the start of the season each club agrees a budget with the rfl that they will spend on their playing squad. If at any point during the season the club wishes to exceed this budget, then they need to be able to prove that they have the funds to do so otherwise the rfl won't sanction the deal. So as long as you remain under the originally agreed figure, you can still sign players.
Special measures is different. This is where the rfl have concerns over finances and put a block on any signings being made.
So I think the signing was blocked earlier in the season because we went over our budget, not because we were in special measures.
I could be wrong though!
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| Didn't you have another memeber of staff posting on Twitter saying he had worked his backside off this season only to find out he wouldn't be getting paid?
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| [[del[/delquote="Greg Florimos Boots"Didn't you have another memeber of staff posting on Twitter saying he had worked his backside off this season only to find out he wouldn't be getting paid?'"
Behave yourself; also head of Hudds R U apptly who have gone bust. Which I am sure you knew as you follow these threads closely.[del[/del
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| Quote ="Nothus"I might be wrong here but I don't think the earlier incident you mention was a result of us being in special measures.
At the start of the season each club agrees a budget with the rfl that they will spend on their playing squad. If at any point during the season the club wishes to exceed this budget, then they need to be able to prove that they have the funds to do so otherwise the rfl won't sanction the deal. So as long as you remain under the originally agreed figure, you can still sign players.
Special measures is different. This is where the rfl have concerns over finances and put a block on any signings being made.
So I think the signing was blocked earlier in the season because we went over our budget, not because we were in special measures.
I could be wrong though!'"
There was an issue with Joe Brown. We seemed to release George Milton about the same time, so I assume we were right on our cap limit and had to let Milton go to free up space.
The lack of transparency/conflicting stories on the rest of it means we just have to speculate....
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| Bad news coming out of Fax I hear. Having to massively revise budgets downward and asking staff and players to take a paycut. I made all that up but pass it on anyway.
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| Quote ="Highlander"There was an issue with Joe Brown. We seemed to release George Milton about the same time, so I assume we were right on our cap limit and had to let Milton go to free up space.
The lack of transparency/conflicting stories on the rest of it means we just have to speculate....'"
Milton left on his own terms to take up an opputunity away from the game. It wasnt related to the salary cap.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Didn't you have another memeber of staff posting on Twitter saying he had worked his backside off this season only to find out he wouldn't be getting paid?'"
Can one of our mods please ban/block this clown from our page please?
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Bad news coming out of Fax I hear. Having to massively revise budgets downward and asking staff and players to take a paycut. I made all that up but pass it on anyway.'"
Yeah, I heard the same thing about Fax too.
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| That might explain why they're thinking about selling off all that exposed metalwork for scrap. I heard that from a bloke in the office who's been to Halifax once. But, no smoke without fire, right?
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Can one of our mods please ban/block this clown from our page please?'"
I think actually he's a pretty reasonable chap even if he is having some mischief here. I hope it's reassuring to notice that some other more weird examples of Fax fans are mysteriously not posting on here any more. For the avoidance of doubt anyone from any club who comes on here to tell us how funny it is when something bad happens to the club gets banned instantly.
We mod in stealth-mode on here.
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| Quote ="Highlander"That might explain why they're thinking about selling off all that exposed metalwork for scrap. I heard that from a bloke in the office who's been to Halifax once. But, no smoke without fire, right?'"
I was in the three pigeons on Sunday (true story), and I'm sure the lady behind the bar was trying to tell me with her eyes that Fax are close to insolvency. I had a pint of mild (yeah weird I know) and the RFL instantly tweeted that it was a "poor decision".
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| We've been banned from signing players new or existing since the end of May.that sounds like special measures to me.can't see that changing until existing contracts are up or young players(storton/Milnes) are sold.
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| Quote ="Fr13daY"Yeah, I heard the same thing about Fax too.
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I think our club will come out and deny it pretty soon. Then the next step is special measures isn't it?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I think our club will come out and deny it pretty soon. Then the next step is special measures isn't it?
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I wouldn't advocate any sort of denial too soon. It's better to disappear to New Zealand for a while and maintain total silence.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I think our club will come out and deny it pretty soon. Then the next step is special measures isn't it?
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I heard the Bulls were looking at signing <Halifax Star Player> for next season too.
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| Quote ="Fr13daY"I heard the Bulls were looking at signing <Halifax Star Player> for next season too.'"
Well there's no smoke without fire. I saw Halifax Star Player as I was passing Odsal this morning. He was shaking the padlocks and looking confused.
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| Quote ="JohnQ"We've been banned from signing players new or existing since the end of May.that sounds like special measures to me.can't see that changing until existing contracts are up or young players(storton/Milnes) are sold.'"
People keep mentioning this and I can't see how its relevant. Existing contracts which aren't being renewed expire in November and any new ones start from November. There isn't any overlap so why does it affect next years spending plans, which players we have at moment who are leaving?
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Well there's no smoke without fire. I saw Halifax Star Player as I was passing Odsal this morning. He was shaking the padlocks and looking confused.'"
Well, if there has been an approximate sighting of <Halifax Star Player> there looking for the bus to Dewsbury, and he has been putting out some VERY ambiguous messages on Twitter about "....playing rugby" then that has definitely confirmed it for me. <Halifax Star Player> in the famous Red, Amber and Black stripes next year.
I can't imagine any Halifax fans being happy about that.
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| Quote ="mat"People keep mentioning this and I can't see how its relevant. Existing contracts which aren't being renewed expire in November and any new ones start from November. There isn't any overlap so why does it affect next years spending plans, which players we have at moment who are leaving?'"
All of them bar 14 are Not contracted from 1st November, technically.
This is one of the reasons I think RFL are trying to force a sale of the club - from 1st Nov, our wage liabilities are much reduced which gives a new owner room to make his own decisions
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| Quote ="Highlander"All of them bar 14 are Not contracted from 1st November, technically.
This is one of the reasons I think RFL are trying to force a sale of the club - from 1st Nov, our wage liabilities are much reduced which gives a new owner room to make his own decisions'"
One of those decisions presumably is to move back into Odsal? Just without any players? I can't see that working.
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| Quote ="Fr13daY"Well, if there has been an approximate sighting of <Halifax Star Player> there looking for the bus to Dewsbury, and he has been putting out some VERY ambiguous messages on Twitter about "....playing rugby" then that has definitely confirmed it for me. <Halifax Star Player> in the famous Red, Amber and Black stripes next year.
I can't imagine any Halifax fans being happy about that.'"
Fax fans don't do "being happy". Even when they've beaten us they're usually still moping around determinedly searching for the downside...
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