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| When do we get hit with this?
I just ask because it seems like no news source which hosts league tables don't seem to have factored it in.
[url=http://www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/competitions/championship/tablesSky Sports[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/championship/tableBBC[/url
[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/live-tables/championshipSporting Life[/url
[url=http://www.rugby-league.com/kingstone_press_leagues/league_tablesRugby League.com[/url
Has this been forgotten about? Has some sort of deal been done? Or can none of these media outlets be bothered to set up their tables to include the deduction?
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| Strange, it's not that difficult to change a spreadsheet and neither is the situation that uncommon.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Strange, it's not that difficult to change a spreadsheet and neither is the situation that uncommon.'"
It must be because some of the sites' tables upto last year, still had the bonus point column.
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| Don't worry, they won't forget.
We will get to have a little star by our name too.
*Bradford Bulls
*deducted 12 points because another company who have nothing to do with this one at all, no connection, not a thing, went into administration. We have to blame someone so we are blaming the fans and loyal players of this one.
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| Quote ="debaser"Don't worry, they won't forget.
We will get to have a little star by our name too.
*Bradford Bulls
*deducted 12 points because another company who have nothing to do with this one at all, no connection, not a thing, went into administration. We have to blame someone so we are blaming the fans and loyal players of this one.'"
Exactly this
It's like buying a second hand car and the previous owner had 9 penalty points on their licence and they carry over into your licence when you become the new owner. Disgrace
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| Quote ="roger daly"Exactly this
It's like buying a second hand car and the previous owner had 9 penalty points on their licence and they carry over into your licence when you become the new owner. Disgrace'"
However, if you buy a second hand car in good faith and it turns out to be stolen you lose it. AS stated on a different thread the 12 point deduction was announced becasue we had such a strong squad at the time it was announced. It did not take into account that we were subsequently liquidated and then lost our whole squad, coaching staff and backroom staff. So if we put both analogies together we not only got the 9 points that the previous owner had incurred but we have also had to give him the car back again.
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| Mmm, seems almost fair when you put it like that.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"However, if you buy a second hand car in good faith and it turns out to be stolen you lose it. AS stated on a different thread the 12 point deduction was announced becasue we had such a strong squad at the time it was announced. It did not take into account that we were subsequently liquidated and then lost our whole squad, coaching staff and backroom staff. So if we put both analogies together we not only got the 9 points that the previous owner had incurred but we have also had to give him the car back again.'"
You forgot to include the fact that we only got this special treatment because we are their "favourites".
What I want to know is - what would have ben the penalty if we had not been their favourites?
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| Well after round 1, we're not bottom of our league (unless you take the unfair 12 point deduction into account) - maybe thats the HUGE announcement - RFL realise they have messed up and agree that the new Bulls club (because we are their favourites) should get 0 points deduction.
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| Weird tweet from Martyn Sadler:
"Earlier tonight someone phoned us and told us the RFL had restored @OfficialBullsRL's 12-points deduction. Why?"
What's that all about?
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| Quote ="debaser"Weird tweet from Martyn Sadler:
"Earlier tonight someone phoned us and told us the RFL had restored @OfficialBullsRL's 12-points deduction. Why?"
What's that all about?'"
I think you're misunderstanding, somebody assumed it had been restored because none of the league tables were showing it. Unfortunately it hasn't been restored.
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| League table has now been corrected, -12: Bradford Bulls (Condition of membership of the RFL)
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| How come all the other RFL members started on zero?
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| Quote ="Branded Bull"League table has now been corrected, -12: Bradford Bulls (Condition of membership of the RFL)
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Are we -12 points for ever then regardless of wins? Or just at the start of every season?
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| Odd wording, but then they can't say -12 for entering administration or being liquidated as that was the previous Bulls.
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| The only possible rationale I can come up with is that the RFL see it as a compensatory deduction to make it up to those teams that finished behind us last year when the club was being run irresponsibly and benefitting from having a better side than could be afforded.
It doesn’t stand scrutiny either really given that our spendthrift ways of signing heaps of players and binning them off at a moment’s notice didn’t exactly mean we did very well out of it.
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| So all clubs have -12 as condition of membership?
It's weird that is has only been deducted from ours.
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| Quote ="debaser"So all clubs have -12 as condition of membership?
It's weird that is has only been deducted from ours.'"
Yeah, I keep refreshing the webpages but it seems Torontos -12 isn't showing either.
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| I thought the RFL decide on the points any new team start with by checking the BBC weather for Helsinki. If only we'd restarted in June.
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| What should the penalty be for serially screwing the tax man & local suppliers? Apart from a 3 year rent holiday obvs.
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| Quote ="tigertot"What should the penalty be for serially screwing the tax man & local suppliers? Apart from a 3 year rent holiday obvs.'"
Prosecute the chairman who evaded the debt?
Because punishing another club for ones misdemeanours has worked so well in the past.
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| Quote ="tigertot"What should the penalty be for serially screwing the tax man & local suppliers? Apart from a 3 year rent holiday obvs.'"
Obviously the penalty is to punish some people that had no say whatsoever in those actions.
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| Quote ="tigertot"What should the penalty be for serially screwing the tax man & local suppliers? Apart from a 3 year rent holiday obvs.'"
A four year term as President.
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