This is where the mess started in my opinion. no investment to keep us in super league and added with the mismanagement of Ferres and Hunter Paul we only have ourselves to blame. Interesting article from Ross today that green is in Ibiza and hasn't told the players or rohan anything. I hope the Rumours on twitter about him liquidating the club due to lack of funds are not true. m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/spo ... ord_Bulls/

This is where the mess started in my opinion. no investment to keep us in super league and added with the mismanagement of Ferres and Hunter Paul we only have ourselves to blame. Interesting article from Ross today that green is in Ibiza and hasn't told the players or rohan anything. I hope the Rumours on twitter about him liquidating the club due to lack of funds are not true. m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/spo ... ord_Bulls/

If ever there was an opportunity for a Koukash take over then now is the time. There's certainly a chance that Marwan's looking to walk away from Salford presumably due to the lack of fan support. His wife Mandy was also rumoured recently to still be interested in taking over. I can't say that I'm the biggest fan of the Doctor but if the other options are part time or bust then I'm in.

There's also the possibility that he may walk away from the game altogether after his run ins with the RFL of late.

If we end up with Koukash I'm out. For real.

My gut feeling is that MG is not done and won't walk away. My hope is that he's already worked through the different scenarios and has the plan for the outcome of Sunday's capitulation.

The amount of work put into the u19's and development of youth makes me think the plan was always longer term.

Imagine him walking away and leaving the club in the hands of Koukash?

I hope he stays, I think I'd rather have a successful Championship team then a rebounding, unpredictable bottom 4 SL team.

To be fair to Marc Green, a few weeks ago we were dead and buried as far as the top four was concerned so it certainly wasn't out of the blue. It must have already been discussed.

This. I know people are angry, but Green comes across as a genuine professional, and I've not seen that since the late, great Peter Deakin.

Until Green gets back off his jollies and tells everybody what the state of affairs is then we don't know what the club are faced with. The only things I'm hearing are doom and gloom scenarios which doesn't do anybody any good especially the staff and players at the club.

This damning article in the Yorkshire Post just about sums up the whole sorry state of affairs: goo.gl/ShPVd7 I personally feel more gutted now than I did after the 1M pound game last year. I most probably will be physically sick if I read another inane comment from a player or official that says anything like: "This club deserves to be in Super League". We deserve to be where we are, period.

This damning article in the Yorkshire Post just about sums up the whole sorry state of affairs: goo.gl/ShPVd7 I personally feel more gutted now than I did after the 1M pound game last year. I most probably will be physically sick if I read another inane comment from a player or official that says anything like: "This club deserves to be in Super League". We deserve to be where we are, period.

If its any consolation you probably helped another Championship club out by them making the top 4 as Fev face yet another winding up order.

How can anyone blame Marc Green FFS! No investment!!??

In 2014 i remember going to the first game at Odsal. The place was a skeleton, no barriers, a pile of dirt on the car park. The Bulls were dead. Green stated from the off he wasn't a multi-millionaire who could bankroll the club (there aren't many about unfortunately)

In his time he has transformed the business. Bringing more sponsors than ever before. The club HAS had plenty of money to spend. Unfortunately the people in charge to spend that money have utterly urinated it up against a wall.

Superb structures and staff put in place in the academies. At the beginning of 2015 we have a decent squad that maybe with one or 2 late quality additions would have been fine. Unfortunately Ferres and Lowes lost the plot signing random players with no actual plan. Lowes's stubbornness in refusing to play many players at all or sending them out on loan because of one bad game. 2016 was even worse with the signings of Campbell, Walker, and Mathers. No actual plan for any of these.

How MANY £100,000's have we wasted on players playing no more than 5 games or not at all. We've a 46 man squad FFS. Who do you think paid for it? The business Green created. Marc Green wasn't the problem.It's HOW we spent the money, not lack of it.

I did hear that they were having difficulties. Hopefully the top 4 finish will be enough to see them through.

Nobody's blaming Green? The recruitment was a shambles and as such we are where we are and unfortunately the problem is on Mr Greens lap, regardless of what he's done so far.

I heard a rumour that the RFL baled out Fev in the past couple of weeks as they haven't been paying their players.

The OP is about lack of investment. The club has had plenty of investment. Unfortunately it's been largely wasted.

One of the blokes I was speaking to on the way out mentioned something along those lines.

Quote ="David Tasker"This is where the mess started in my opinion. no investment to keep us in super league and added with the mismanagement of Ferres and Hunter Paul we only have ourselves to blame. Interesting article from Ross today that green is in Ibiza and hasn't told the players or rohan anything. I hope the Rumours on twitter about him liquidating the club due to lack of funds are not true. m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/spo ... ord_Bulls/'" As a 'new' member to the board, who has racked up a significant number of posts in a few days, I'll be interested to find out your actual agenda. You've gone to pinning everything on Marc Green within 50 posts. If that doesn't suggest you're insidiously trying to destabilise the club (albeit through a very small demographic on here), then I don't know what does.

Quote ="David Tasker"This is where the mess started in my opinion. no investment to keep us in super league and added with the mismanagement of Ferres and Hunter Paul we only have ourselves to blame. Interesting article from Ross today that green is in Ibiza and hasn't told the players or rohan anything. I hope the Rumours on twitter about him liquidating the club due to lack of funds are not true. m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/spo ... ord_Bulls/'" As a 'new' member to the board, who has racked up a significant number of posts in a few days, I'll be interested to find out your actual agenda. You've gone to pinning everything on Marc Green within 50 posts. If that doesn't suggest you're insidiously trying to destabilise the club (albeit through a very small demographic on here), then I don't know what does.

Wonder if it's Peter Hood x2

I had to go back and read that again. Yeah, ignore that as it's bollox. Lack of investment by anybody at the club wasn't the reason we were relegated.

Not sure what Green could have really done to keep us in Super League as he'd taken over after the season started, we’d been hammered by a points deduction and there were hardly many candidates for players to bring in to turn it round. The writing was on the wall before the ink was dry on his paperwork to take over.

I will agree that he has been badly misguided on some aspects – the willingness was there, I don’t think he’s exactly penny pinched but he’s hardly splashed the cash either. That for me started with the appointment of Lowes. When Cummins got the boot, morale was fantastically low (something we now describe as the status quo). There were strong rumours of Noble coming back at the time – as I guess there always will be – but for me Jimmy was Nobby on a budget. A hark back to the good old days to get the feel good factor back. Now whoever advised Green that Lowes was a good appointment – to me did seem like a bit of a “jobs for the boys” move – started a snowball of bad decisions as we were told recently that recruitment was then a three way decision process between Green, Ferres and Lowes. I think we’re pretty much agreed recruitment was poor and lead us to this position. To me, I don’t think Green was out scouting the Aussie reserve grade, so we have to assume Ferres and Lowes brought the players to Green’s attention and he’d rubber stamp them. That’s the willingness, but he’s rubber stamped the wrong stuff and been left with no margin for error. I don’t think it’s a lack of “investment” – it’s a lack of investment in the right thing. A hard act to balance, I’ll admit.

What the club need to do now, is let people know what is going on. To read that article that AOB and the players don’t know what’s happening in 2017 is a tad disgraceful. We can’t move forward from one of the most disastrous results in the history of the club because Green is on holiday! Fine, well Ferres is still there, and I’m not suggesting the club isn’t working non stop behind the scenes, but there has been not an official word from the Bulls at all since the final hooter on Sunday. Even a placeholder of “We’ll announce something later this week” would be preferable to this silence. A huge slice of honesty is needed right now, I’ve always thought of Green as a particularly honest bloke and it’s nothing less than the fans deserve after this shambles of a season.

the original point I was trying to make was that when green took over the reinforcements to help Francis cummins he promised didn't appear. Instead as you rightly point out in such a great post is that there has been investment but it's been mismanaged and wasted on signing the wrong calibre of player. Someone at odsal has to accept responsibility be it green or Ferres. Not making the top four is unforgivable and the people who have got us where we are say nothing. a wall of silence has gone up around the place and the suooorters , players as stake holders in the club deserve so much better.

Marc Greens only problem is that he's been guided by Ferres with regards to the playing side, and this year Ferres has let him and the Club down in my opinion, and I bet Ferres was glad that MG was on his jollies as he would have got the hair dryer treatment and so would the dressing room.
I see the usual insidious agendas are creeping back in with certain new faces.

Indeed. All of this rumour and ambiguity is bloody irritating. Bring facts or a plan, but lazy casting of aspersions with no real information is tedious and draining.

Does seem a very similar set of themes.

1. Big up gledhill. Check
2. Moan about hobbo. Check
3. Boot into green. Check

Hmmm...

Wasn't David Tasker associated with the club also? Think we wrote the season review books we used to do.

U sure your not thinking of Gary tasker? One of caisleys group.