The boo's that our players are getting must stop, what positive affect does it have on our players - none. If in your day to day job you recieve constant demoralising feedback it doesnt help you perform to your best, it makes you feel like looking for another job elsewhere working in a better enviroment. We have several of our top players off contract at the end of the season, the boo's could cause them to think about playing elsewhere.
Were not playing well at the moment but were not getting 50+ points posted against us every week. There is a full pre season to get it right before the important games start
Boo the ref though by all means thoughg

If 5000 people paid to see me at work every week and I performed badly I'd expect them to let me know about it...

The fans have got behind the players more than any other club IMO.

TWo administrations, 500k of fans money gone and a relegation and still they get better support than most SL clubs.

The fact is Ferres touched a lot of nerves with his comments including mine! We missed a big chance of promotion last year because of mistakes made that most could see except the coach.

Again the fans have travelled in huge numbers brought expensive season tickets (which I am happy to do if we get the performances on the pitch)

But we have won 4 out of 8 games this season and been out played and out enthused by teams that not only had to go to Work during the week, but in the case of Dewsbury probably had to put in a days grind on game day.

We are just so unbelievably poor at the moment. Last year we stuck with the team even during poor periods and Lowes continued with things that weren't working. The booing is the fans way of letting the club know that things aren't right and need to change. A kick up the backside is what the club needs.

This pre-season rubbish is all well and good. But at the moment we're in danger of not even being in the top 4 if we dont improve. Peaking at the end of the season won't matter a jot of we're not in the middle 8s.

I think booing is over the top. At the moment I don’t see a lack of effort at all. I just think some fans are just struggling to vocalise their unhappiness with how we’re playing.

We’re not playing good RL. We have players that look frustrated and unhappy that things aren’t clicking. It’s up to the coaches to address this. Fans don’t have the opportunity to express this to the coaches very easily so it comes out in all sorts of ways.

Fans will get behind the team if they give them something to shout about. They were very much behind them on Monday when we were on the Fax line in the second half. It was only at the end when frustration with our poor play boiled over that there was booing. I thought it was uncalled for – if you could direct it at Lowes and Ferres then fair enough but many of the players tried hard and didn’t deserve it.

Ferres's quote about getting behind the team spectacularly missed the point and probably helped stoke dissatisfaction.

Hi Steve

I personally think Jimmy has lost the dressing room and if he has then all is lost. Our players have not become bad players over the last few weeks, there is more to it than that. When good players such as Gaskell and O'Brian start to appear mediocre then there is something behind the scenes that is wrong and I think we all know what that is. My ultimate respect to JL when he was a player. Nobody was more up for the challenge than he was and he never gave in. This is what makes the attitude of the players hard to understand.

If he has lost the dressing room, there really is no way back for him (or anyone in his position in any sport)

See Jose Mourinho at Chelsea.

There's hardly a raft of players coming out publicly in his defence either....the player silence is deafening on the matter!

So is this a third thread on James Lowes or what?

Not everyone boos, but when they play consistently poorly then always a section of upset fans will boo, just like if they play well (you remember that?) the same fans will cheer. That's how it is, and ever will be, so the thread is pointless Steve.

Its mr ferres to you!

Whilst I haven't booed I don't have a problem with anyone that does. Like FA says, there is one easy way to stop the booing, play better and recruit properly.

If any player who is in a team that is playing badly really gets upset by a negative fan response to the point where it negatively effects his contribution as a full time professional - then I suggest he should not be a full time professional sportsman.

Are we just supposed to blindly accept below par recruitment and performance? I don't think so. The playing staff and the people responsible for recruitment have it in their own power to change things, so just do it and stop bleating, then you'll get the backing you deserve.

Bull Mania makes a very good point above, of all rugby league clubs in this country we have been through more than most in the past few years and the fans have turned up home and away in good numbers and supported throughout, to question my (our) loyalty as being negative like ferres has done when its not us missing tackles and falling to recruit correctly in key positions, just really, really p!sses me off.

I was here long before him and the current players, and I'll (hopefully) be here long after him and the current players, so I'll damn well call it as I see it about my club. And at the moment its not good enough.

Amen to that.

Seconded

Maybe I've gone selectively deaf, but I heard very little booing and a whole lot of cheering and chanting at Halifax.

Certainly from where I was (Main Stand) it was more a sense of resigned frustration than any outright booing at the final whistle. I stuck around as the team trudged off (I didn't boo, but I didn't clap them off) and heard almost no booing.

I've heard far worse back in the day. I remember Northern being quite literally booed off the field and then thoroughly abused all the way up to the old changing rooms. I think our team would need counselling if they had to put up with what the team did back in the 70s

I heard a bit of booing at the end but nothing that major. Certainly heard worse in the past too. Thankfully we don't have the long walk to the dressing rooms nowadays. The amount of numpties at games nowadays would mean they'd need a police escort every game.

The worst reception I remember in recent memory was after that 66 point stuffing at home to Saints in 2005. Obviously something was seriously wrong behind the scenes as every player looked well out of sorts. Funnily enough it ended up being a turning point - we hit rock bottom and came back to win the GF.

So is this proof that booing works?

You get my drift...

I was in the stand behind sticks and it seemed quite loud. Wasn't the whole stand. The fans were behind the team the whole game even after we dropped it from a drop out and Addy threw it in to touch

. But i would say it was 50/50 split between booing and clapping when the players sheepishly came over. But there is definite unrest and i think a lot of fans are fed up with Lowes.

Speaking of getting on the players' backs, I have re-read what was said after the Dewsbury game.


So, Ferres said that OUR ENTHUSIASM LEVELS were NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. Ferres thought they looked insufficiently bothered. And to the extent that he said so publicly!

That is an alarmingly damning public indictment from your MD. It means he thinks they weren't trying hard enough. Not bothered, Put it whatever way you want, that's the inside view.

Lowes said:

So, arguing in the camp, people blaming each other? "Unacceptable" stuff?

Isn't the booing from some fans just their way of making the same points?

If I go to a restaurant and my food comes out cold, I will complain.

If I buy a dvd from a shop and the disc fails to work, I will complain.

If I pay to have a utility company provide service to my home and that service is interrupted through nothing I have done, I will complain.

Why then should I not boo if the team I'm paying money to support performs at a less than adequate level?

You pay your money to get to the game, you can say what you want, clap if you want and boo if you want "Simples"

What is a supporter. According to my dictionary it refers to one who supports. Whilst I understand those who choose to boo the team are somewhat disappointed I wonder how they can equate booing with supporting. It seems to me that it is the complete opposite of supporting your team. there are clearly other ways of making your point - one of these is of course this forum or you could contact the powers that be yourself. I just feel that booing the team is self defeating and in the end will only make matters worse - which I'm sure none of us want.

Oh, absolutely, everyone should heartily cheer and sing them off the field and sing "For they're all jolly good fellows" however abject the performance0.


Thanks. I never thought of posting my views in this forum. I'm sure nobody else here thought of it either.

OK. Now you've cracked that one, I suggest you move on and get everybody to be nice to each other on Twitter.

Some people use their first post in a way that it makes an impact, and you do not disappoint here whatsoever.

Not in a good way however.

This, to me, is a result of the namby-pamby society we live in these days where kids are being encouraged in schools "not to win" in case the losing side gets upset. It is ridiculous.

I don't think that booing is self-defeating at all. If the product on display is crap, then people have a right to say so. It would be worse if they were clearly not trying yet people still lauded them and praised them for all their "hard" work. I have said it before on many occasions, players of all sports are more than happy to take all the kudos when they are playing well and winning, so therefore they should be able to take the stick when they are playing crap and losing.

You don't win any relevant silverware just for having nice happy supporters do you?

We seem to be going back to that, 'we're the Bulls and we ought to win', mentality. No-one has a right to win - all you can ask is they put the effort in and do their best. Booing people who have done that does nothing to help, imo.

Fine. We pay our money and can boo if we want. That's not a problem, it's just that I'm not 100% convinced that that is what 'real' supporters do. As said up the thread, booing the players doesn't help anything.

At the end of the day, we had a number of players missing [not to mention the no.7 we haven't got, away from home against a decent side, we came up four points adrift - well into the area where one decision going the other way changes the result. It wasn't the fault of the players who were booed that we don't have a genuine scrum half who might well have opened it up a bit more for us. Whether it's the fault of the management or circumstances is another point - booing the players who did their best, in trying circumstances, isn't the answer.