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| Posted on Facebook that there's another announcement due tomorrow morning.
I'm guessing it's either an addition to the coaching staff or, more likely, another new sponsor.
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| Do you mean the one saying "There's a big one coming your way"? Think that might be lottery related.
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| Oh yeah. That makes sense
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| Mystic Eddie's joining the BoD.
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| Assistant coach announcement
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Assistant coach announcement'"
Harrison?.
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| Quote ="mat"Harrison?.'"
Really? I don't think the fax fans were that impressed by him.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Really? I don't think the fax fans were that impressed by him.'"
As a head coach. Think he'd go we'll as an assistant and knows championship inside out which would help. Just a guess aeotd.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Do you mean the one saying "There's a big one coming your way"? Think that might be lottery related.'"
But then again, Karl is pretty big!! Well pleased with that.
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| Quote ="mat"As a head coach. Think he'd go we'll as an assistant and knows championship inside out which would help. Just a guess aeotd.'"
Unfortunately he didn't know The Championship inside out. His coaching manual hasn't received it's V.8.1 upgrade and he's still on the 2004 version. Lovely bloke though and a Fax player Hall of Famer. Just not a good coach.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Unfortunately he didn't know The Championship inside out. His coaching manual hasn't received it's V.8.1 upgrade and he's still on the 2004 version. Lovely bloke though and a Fax player Hall of Famer. Just not a good coach.'"
Funny that, because he was Nobby's assistant at Odsal for a couple of years before leaving in 2002 to join Salford. When he left, we were reigning World Club Champions, as well as having beaten Wigan to be 2001 SL champions before going on to beat Newcastle Knights in his second year, when we again made the Grand Final.
Now, any troll on here will tell you that Nobby can't coach - never could - and had no Plan B. Given Harrison can't coach either, particularly it seems as a SL assistant coach, boy are we in trouble.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Unfortunately he didn't know The Championship inside out. His coaching manual hasn't received it's V.8.1 upgrade and he's still on the 2004 version. Lovely bloke though and a Fax player Hall of Famer. Just not a good coach.'"
Maybe he'd just been at Fax too long? Got stale? Even if he is a bit of a lame duck as you say he's an improvement on what we have had which is no assistant at all.
When he left Fax early there were some rumours of off field problems to do with cash. If there was substance in that it could well have an effect on him and who he could recruit etc.
He's been there and done it as a player and as a coach he's done well on a limited budget in the past.
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| Well I'm very happy. I guess time will tell, but at this point outcomes are better than I had any reason to expect.
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| Didn't Fax finish 3rd in the league? Apparently with money problems , so it doesn't look like Rhino did too badly at all really.
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| Apparently Fax have been tailing off somewhat in recent seasons and playing some uninspiring rugby. A Fax supporting mate told me the nilling by Dewsbury was absolutely awful (but Harrison had gone by then). Seems they’ve been on a downward trajectory but as you say 3rd isn’t that bad on paper. For the sake of the derby next year I hope Marshall gets them on the up again.
From listening to Harrison on the radio his voice does have a bit of a soporific quality. Not in the same league as Jon Sharpe thankfully, but a long way from being an inspirational motivator.
I was listening to Paul Anderson on radio Leeds a few weeks back (another one with monotone delivery) and he was saying it’s up to players to provide their own motivation. I’m sure he’s right but I also think it’s up to the coach to do some of that too. Hopefully Lowes has got that ability. If not maybe he could get some poetry from Sir Peter Fox?
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| From all that we've been hearing from 'within' recently, it appears Jimmy is the firebrand, with the inspirational, red hot rhetoric, so unless all the players have been telling porkies, it seems that department is probably covered.
At the end of the day, Karl had a decent reputation when he left the club previously and whilst he didn't exactly cover himself in glory at Salford, it has to be said, that was hardly the [i:r3qs15d3easiest[/i so for a rookie coach he probably did as well as could be expected. As a player, he never took a backward step, so if he can instill a bit of that into the side he'll do OK for me. If he can do it without shouting, well so much the better..
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I was listening to Paul Anderson on radio Leeds a few weeks back (another one with monotone delivery) and he was saying it’s up to players to provide their own motivation.'"
There's a certain kind of guy who can say that, believe it, and be completely unaware of how much of it he actually is providing. I would put money on Anderson being one of those.
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| We've been tailing off right from the point that Harrison took over. He has completely coached all the flair out of a once exciting team. Ex-fax players released by Karl now in the Championship Team of The Year - and not one current Fax player in it. Believe me, he's a poor coach. Don't take my word for it though - there's plenty on the Fax & Salford forums who will back up my statement.
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| Quote ="littlerich"We've been tailing off right from the point that Harrison took over. He has completely coached all the flair out of a once exciting team. Ex-fax players released by Karl now in the Championship Team of The Year - and not one current Fax player in it. Believe me, he's a poor coach. Don't take my word for it though - there's plenty on the Fax & Salford forums who will back up my statement.'"
In fairness he's the assistant. BIG difference.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"In fairness he's the assistant. BIG difference.'"
Fair point. Obviously not sure of his motivational qualities so maybe his strengths do lay in an assistant type role. Hope he does kick on from here - he's still revered in Fax for his playing achievements.
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| When he was appointed at Salford we were dreadful defensively and he tackled that problem immediately and we had a good run for the first half of the season. However he seemed to be unable to push on from that base and (if my memory is correct) we lost every game in the second half of the season then the first half dozen in the next season so he got the bullet! Mind you as has been mentioned earlier in the thread coaching Salford has never been without its challenges!
FWIW, I think employed primarily as a defensive coach KH will do well for you.
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| It doesn't matter whether he's at bradford, salford or anywhere else he'll always be mr halifax to me. I really disliked him as a player, the gobby attitude, the coaching the ref, the fax shirt....
I respect the bloke both as a player and coach but he's permanently ingrained in my noggin as the key icon of our key rivals.
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| Quote ="littlerich"..... Believe me, he's a poor coach. Don't take my word for it though - there's plenty on the Fax & Salford forums who will back up my statement.'"
I don't really care, though, you talk as if we've never heard of him, even though in 2 years as our assistant coach he played his part in getting us to 2 Grand Finals and a WCC win. So, he can do that job, unless he's forgotten, which seems unlikely.
If you'd said his recent form as Head coach is not all that, it would be fair enough comment, it's just this "Believe me, he's a poor coach" stuff when he's pretty much proved what he can do - and at top level - that is I think a tad Black Knight.
But I shouldn't worry, when we were winning he was working under Noble and whaddya know he can't coach either, so maybe if you're right, we'll go well!
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| If he was as crap as people are making out they'd not be telling us which tells me he's actually quite good. In any case I don't think there's anyone else with the same level of experience knocking about.
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