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| Next season how does promotion work from the championship is it top two go up or what?
explain? cheers
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| Ok......
You have SL, Championship, Championship 1.
Each team in each league plays each other twice, plus an extra game.
After 23 rounds the top 8 from SL go through h to a round robin/play-off series keeping the points they have accumulated over the 23 rounds.
The bottom 4 of SL and top 4 of championship split and go into their own league starting on zero points.
They play each other once, the top 3 automatically promoted and 4/5th have a grand final to go into SL.
Try explaining that to new fans!
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| Seriously that how the new format works then?
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| yep you have to play 4 teams who have a salary cap of £1.8m and hope to beat one of them in a winner takes all 4 v 5 play off game
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"yep you have to play 4 teams who have a salary cap of £1.8m and hope to beat one of them in a winner takes all 4 v 5 play off game'"
It is a tough ask, but tbf, if it was this season the middle 8 would be;
Wakefield
Hull
Bradford
London
Leigh
Featherstone
Halifax
Doncaster
Assume on league form and placings that Wakey and Hull come first and second in the middle 8 and Fev,fax and Doncaster come in the bottom 3. But, would you bet against Leigh beating the Bulls or London to either position 3 or winning the final?? We have a bigger cap this season but circumstances have dictated that Leigh would be favourites over both the Bulls and London. Who's to say other faults wont also send at least one of next years super league teams into the middle 8 playoffs in a bad state?
Its not a great chance, but I'd say its a very realistic opportunity for 1 or 2 really well run championship clubs, who will hit the middle 8 playoffs full of confidence and looking for promotion rather than the bottom super league clubs that will be lower on confidence and trying to avoid relegation (I think thats a significant attitude difference) If Leigh were to be 5th in my fictional middle 8 above I'd give them a good chance against any of them 4 super league clubs in a one off final at the mo, although in that 8 in the current state Leigh would be 3rd and we'd (hopefully) be playing London or fev or fax in the final.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"yep you have to play 4 teams who have a salary cap of £1.8m and hope to beat one of them in a winner takes all 4 v 5 play off game'"
Tough - but while they had their own problems London got the full Sky funding this year and still managed to do much worse than us.
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| Farcically.
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| how many go up just 2
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| Quote ="Windass10"how many go up just 2'"
No, 4 go up. The top three in the mini-league and the winner of the 4 vs 5 playoff game.
Deja-vu?
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| Quote ="Windass10"how many go up just 2'"
When they split into their own little playoff, it's the teams who finish in the top 4 positions.
The most likely scenario is that the top 4 positions will be filled by the SL sides, in which case nobody will be switching divisions.
Our best bet is probably to finish 5th in the playoff tournament and go into the decider against a SL side and sneak a win.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Farcically.'"
Absolutely farcical , should be decided by a one off game , bottom super league v top of championship , winner takes all .
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| Only the rfl could complicate a simple promotion and relegation. Give it 2 seasons tops, and then another change.
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| wonder how many SL sides who look like being in positions 9-12 not spending full cap during 23 game main season and saving some room to get some top players in on a short term end of season contract to enhance their chances of finishing well in the 7 game mini-league. Might be a few players from NRL reserves fancy a well paid short holiday...?????
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| Quote ="Nothus":3d3fgdl9When they split into their own little playoff, it's the teams who finish in the top 4 positions.
The most likely scenario is that the top 4 positions will be filled by the SL sides, in which case nobody will be switching divisions.
:3d3fgdl9Our best bet is probably to finish 5th in the playoff tournament and go into the decider against a SL side and sneak a win:3d3fgdl9.'" an SL side in a cup game game, 'cos I've forgotten. The number of years since this last happened is probably a loose guide to how often we'll see any clubs promoted under this system.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"That's exactly my view. Remind me of the last occasion on which a div2 team beat [ plucky defeats not allowed an SL side in a cup game game, 'cos I've forgotten. The number of years since this last happened is probably a loose guide to how often we'll see any clubs promoted under this system.'"
Fev beat Cas a couple of seasons ago iirc, they also gave Wigan a decent game for 60 mins in the next round as well I think.
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| yep they won 23-16 at home against Cas
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| So...we now have promotion/relegation, without much chance of a team from the championship actually being promoted, good old RFL!!
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"wonder how many SL sides who look like being in positions 9-12 not spending full cap during 23 game main season and saving some room to get some top players in on a short term end of season contract to enhance their chances of finishing well in the 7 game mini-league. Might be a few players from NRL reserves fancy a well paid short holiday...?????'"
But surely the RFL, being the open, honest, well run and trustworthy governing body would implement a transfer window preventing such blatantly unfair and underhanded tactics?
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| I wouldn't even dream about promotion for at least 5 years if I were a Bulls fan, plenty of time to get to grips with the format. It was vital to stay in SL this season; full-time staff or part-time staff it means nothing. The gulf is just wider now, it's good that the RFL are dangling the carrot though, keeps a few clubs dreams alive.
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| Does anyone know what age group the Bulls academy will be next season
Super League academy under 19s,championship under 20s
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| Quote ="Duckman"It is a tough ask, but tbf, if it was this season the middle 8 would be;
Wakefield
Hull
Bradford
London
Leigh
Featherstone
Halifax
Doncaster
Assume on league form and placings that Wakey and Hull come first and second in the middle 8 and Fev,fax and Doncaster come in the bottom 3. But, would you bet against Leigh beating the Bulls or London to either position 3 or winning the final?? We have a bigger cap this season but circumstances have dictated that Leigh would be favourites over both the Bulls and London. Who's to say other faults wont also send at least one of next years super league teams into the middle 8 playoffs in a bad state?
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Actually it would be more like:
Hull KR
Salford
Wakefield
Hull
Bulls
London
Leigh
Fev
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Actually it would be more like:
Hull KR
Salford
Wakefield
Hull
Bulls
London
Leigh
Fev'"
And your next joke is ?
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| Quote ="MashPotatoes"And your next joke is ?'"
You are aware there are 12 teams rather than 14 in superleague next year????
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| I expect Wakey, KR and Widnes to be three of the teams. Can't decide on the 4th. Anyone who watched the widnes V Wakey and Cats V Wakey must have seen how awful those games were. A confident championship team has a chance. Don't forget the top two teams in the championship also get 4 home games from the seven. Odsal would get big crowds to watch us play Wakey, KR and say Widnes + one other.
What do people think the points will be for say 3rd -auto promotion spot - out of a possible 14 points. I am guessing 8 points. Four wins = 3 championship teams + Wakey or KR or Widnes. That sounds possible to me.
We may as well pack it in now if people don't think we have a chance against the bottom SL clubs. Wakey are already signing average players for next year.
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