Lets leave the Waking Dead on the other thread and talk about

who we would keep for our SL2 squad (does anybody know if we have to keep anyone as if so thats the starting point and no doubt there are plenty out there that can tell us how much they are on so we know what cap is left for other players)

who we would get in?

Who would be the coach?

If we get relegated the players I'd love to see stay would be Kear, Addy, Donno, Blythe, O'Brien and Gaskell. Don't think many of them will be on a huge wage and would love to see Donno as the club captain in the future.

From our current squad:

BK - Gone
Elliot Kear - Try and keep, but I think he'll leave
Purtell - Gone
Blythe - Try and keep
Foster - Gone
Gale - Gone
Diskin - Retired
Olbison - Try and keep
Ferguson - Gone
Walker - Try and keep
Nas - Try and keep (our one and only o/seas spot)
Sidlow - Try and keep
Addy - Try and keep
Gaskell - Try and keep
Donno - Try and Keep
Adam o Brien - Try and keep
Luke George - Try and keep
Adam Henry - Gone
Sam Wood - Try and keep
Oliver Roberts - Try and keep
Alex Mellor - Try and keep
Nathan Conroy - Try and keep
Jamal Fakir - Gone
Sam Bates - Try and keep
Adam Brook - Try and keep
Jay Pitts - Try and keep (his deal with Hull is up and Fev are after him!)
Arundel - Gone unless Hull grant him a release
Baldwinson - Gone
Tonks - Gone

I think the post above has got it more or less right.

When you look at what's left its a decent squad for Championship level. Granted it probably needs the addition of a seasoned half back and one or two players for the backs, but the nucleus of a competitive squad is certainly there.

The team that Nothus lists as 'keepers' would IMHO get absolutely flogged by the Leigh team that played Leeds.

John Kear as coach if FC walks away.

If he doesn't walk he'll need to be pushed if things bumble along the next 12 games as the First 14!!

If /when we go down, we must use the opportunity to clear the dead wood out.
Starting with cummins, gale, ferguson, Kearney, Henry and foster.
Then we rebuild with the younger guys.

Ferguson is hardly dead wood, he is injured and he and we have been unlucky in that. If he regains match fitness then I don't think there's any danger of him not playing SL somewhere next season.

Because of the apparent attitude of the team in many of the games we have played, and a number of other things that have accumulated, Cummins' stock has sharply fallen with me. Anyway, he has the ideal opportunity, even though we are now as good as relegated, to show that he is able to coach and motivate a consistent team. If we do put in a string of very respectable performances between now and the death then I think he would be a better proposition next year - wherever we are playing - and would probably be seen by many as one of the most prominent and leading coaches in the Championship. And he still has a large surplus of brownie points with me for the way he ahs conducted himself through our troubles. I just wonder whether he is the leader of men we so badly need.

I think Kearney would go down a storm in the Championship but don't see him wanting to play there. Gale would probably stay as where would he go, but I think he would do a lot better and hopefully be a lot less inconsistent at a lower level.

Not sure what Foster has done wrong. He could do a job.

Well we have got Bates and Brook signed, so that's two. Or do you think their contracts will be null and void now?

And it won't make a lot of difference to Ferguson which league he is injured in will it?

Henry was 2 years iirc, it all depends on whether contracts are void. I would focus on a solid pack so a couple more props, and as suggested by PW71 a seasoned half back in the event of Gale going, then at least the engine is good. The most telling comment recently was Gales after the Wakefield game saying how good it was to play behind a pack that is going forward.

Would Glenn do a job for us?

Hull were after Gale in Feb, so guess some people rate him
didn't Anderson say he thought Olbison and Addy were good players the other week.

See Cas are looking to sign Matt Cook and Scott Moore with Daryl Clark going to Warrington and Huby to Huddersfield. Already started at London, when will it start with us?

I'm fairly sure Henry was only a 12 month deal. If we only have room for 1 overseas player in the Championship I'd rather we didn't waste it on him. Nas would be a better option in my opinion. That's if we can hang on to him like you say.

Glenn? Glenn Morrison? He's just signed a new deal at Dewsbury so that's a nonstarter.

I'd imagine that most of the first team squad will have some sort of 'relegation clause' in their contracts. Players could potentially walk away for nothing at the end of the year. Who knows whats going to happen.

2 points this weekend would be nice.

As a Wakefield fan, I'd be worried if you got him now.
He could make a lot of things at Bradford work.

Hear hear! Would be 6 weeks too late though.

Ferguson has hardly played, he's on more a game than Sonny Bill Williams. He will no doubt be fit and well to turn out for a side not getting battered every week, next season.

Cummins is similar to Mcnamara, a nice guy, but i bet no club in super league would have swapped him for their current coach (apart from wakey and Agar).

Kearney is injured more than he plays, Gale plays one game in 10, and Foster spends more time on social media banging on about his new car or his latest betting tips.

Marc Green has been very shrewd in not getting rid of Cummins due to the costs incurred. We have been as good as relegated since we lost 6 points and lost our 3 best players.

Is shrewd the word, don't you think we could have been in the mix with a couple more wins with a different coach (2 out of Widnes, HKR away or Salford home). Winnable games that slipped out of our grasp

Too big a hill to climb without your 3 best players, I would probably have done it a little different, but you can see why he's done what he has.
Maybe a change of coach and a couple of "good" new players may have made a difference, but who knows.

I agree, our current situation is just the sort of thing JK thrives in.

Is the Salford game one we are targeting?

What a state BULLS/NORTHERN now find themselves in.A 50 year low imo.Well done to all concerned.God knows what next season holds and who will be playing.Depressing doesn't cover it.

Probably fair comment. Whatever happened to the golden crop of youngsters we were developing in the mid 2000's. lots of props and 2nd rows, no half backs to excite and lead the club forward!

Two of them are now in the England train on squad

Luke Gale replaces Marc Sneyd at Cas next year after our numerous attempts to keep him were rejected by Salford.