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| Anyone remeber thr ganson debacle against us, he now moving onto hull kr.
Fc player stood a few metres in front of the kicker, bomb goes up, green sprints down field collects the ball (eden didnt play at it), and score goes up to ganson to have a look watches it once and givesnabkiller try to fc that ended the game.
I refund my comment I made about ganson maybe improving the refs he is only goin to make them worse, all that technology and he still makes a huge cock up, wigan you have been warned against leeds.
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| I was starting to get fed up of the innovative (yet pointless) new camera angles being used today. Was thinking Sky must be employing Stevie Wonder or the singer from Peters and Lee as a producer.
Obviously not - he's the Video Referee...
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| A quite extraordinary decision not to rule out the try for offside.
Anyone saw something that I did not?
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| Should be interesting when questioned on refs twitter thing. Afaik though only the match ref answers questions not the video ref.
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| Ganson (and the RFL) have apologised to Rovers and are admitting that a mistake was made - the try should not have stood.
Apparently Ganson was tracking the wrong bloke when he was reviewing the footage, which I thought at the time could be the only probable reason I could see for him giving the try as Green was clearly offside.
I think this is the end for Ganson, it will almost certainly be easier for him to skulk away into the shadows now - in his behind the scenes position - than it would have been had he still been a full time ref.
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| What a muppet!
I love the way the rfl have tried to explain this or away. Sadly he's the best we've got.
No matter how much copy and pasting you do tigertot you can't even attempt to try and belittle our opinion this time pal. Sorry I know I'm clueless aren't I.
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| It was a bloody awful decision from Ganson. I think we can accept calls where the decision is open to interpretation and is perhaps 50/50. But to miss such a blatant offside is downright incompetence. Embarrassing.
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| Some bloody use an "apology" will do. This was an absolute shocker and for it to be done during the third biggest event club RL on these shores just makes it worse. If the RFL had any cojones then they would "posthumously" disallow the try and call the game a draw. But they won't.
As an aside - the Hull derby does not exactly have an exemplary record for crowd behaviour. I wonder how much trouble this caused in the streets?
An embarrassment of the highest order.
TBH, if such a decision had happened in certain other sports, then eyebrows would be raised for, ahem, other reasons.......
Mr Ganson has quite simply cheated Hull KR and the game of RL yesterday. He should not be made to resign after this, he should be sacked for sheer incompetency.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Some bloody use an "apology" will do. This was an absolute shocker and for it to be done during the third biggest event club RL on these shores just makes it worse. If the RFL had any cojones then they would "posthumously" disallow the try and call the game a draw. But they won't.
As an aside - the Hull derby does not exactly have an exemplary record for crowd behaviour. I wonder how much trouble this caused in the streets?
An embarrassment of the highest order.
TBH, if such a decision had happened in certain other sports, then eyebrows would be raised for, ahem, other reasons.......
Mr Ganson has quite simply cheated Hull KR and the game of RL yesterday. He should not be made to resign after this, he should be sacked for sheer incompetency.'"
Pretty certain, as we found out after first millenium magic, that there is no mechanism in rules to set aside a result due to riffing errors in operational rules.Even though try shouldn't have stood cant see how the result won't stand. If they do change result then it opens a can of worms.
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| Quote ="mat"Pretty certain, as we found out after first millenium magic, that there is no mechanism in rules to set aside a result due to riffing errors in operational rules.Even though try shouldn't have stood cant see how the result won't stand. If they do change result then it opens a can of worms.'"
No doubt this is indeed the case, and I fully expect it is.
However, in cases of exceptional incompetence, to the point of cheating, then something should be done.
I see the parallels with ourselves v Leeds in MM1 but the way the decisions were given were pretty different TBF. IIRC he did not use the evidence available and made a decision off his own back and could be forgiven for making the wrong call due to human error. It happens. Yesterday is a different kettle of cod I am afraid.
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| The one at Cardiff was the worse of the two imo, as it was a double whammy.
The initial penalty was a wrong decision brought about when, against the rules as they then stood, [VR Klein told Ganson [who had already ruled it correctly that a ball had been stolen, when, on further review it clearly hadn't. Then, when the resulting penalty hit the post it was picked up by Tansey who was probably more yards offside than the KR bloke yesterday.
As a circus of errors, it is probably the biggest cook up by our lords and masters since the charge of the Light Brigade.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"
Mr Ganson has quite simply cheated Hull KR and the game of RL yesterday. '"
What complete tosh !
The bloke made a mistake , albeit a monumental brain fart , a mistake nonetheless .
To call him a Cheat would suggest that you have evidence that he stood to gain in some way personally from his aberration , and if so lets hear it ?
It may be that his competence for his role is in question , But calling the man a cheat is a pretty damning accusation that you should be prepared to back up .
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| =#FF4040Comedy value not withstanding . . . . . . post edited in light of recent legal action against what many would have thought an innocent "smilie" on an innocuous comment and the law taking a different, and costly, view - BP
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| Quote ="Buck Tarbrush"What complete tosh !
The bloke made a mistake , albeit a monumental brain fart , a mistake nonetheless .
To call him a Cheat would suggest that you have evidence that he stood to gain in some way personally from his aberration , and if so lets hear it ?
It may be that his competence for his role is in question , But calling the man a cheat is a pretty damning accusation that you should be prepared to back up .'"
Are you hard of understanding or something? Where did I call him a cheat exactly? I said that he cheated HKR out of at least a point. He did. Whether it was a mistake or not, HKR should have had something from the game but they ended up with nothing thanks to Ganson. They were cheated, pure and simple.
Quite similar to when people say that a team were robbed. In this instance it means that they were done out of a result by poor officials and/or an extremely dodgy decision rather than me suggesting that they were actually help up by Dick Turpin on their team coach on the way to the game.
It is a terminology, not a direct accusation against his honesty as an official. Clearly you must be a bit thick if you need me to explain that to you.
Therefore it would do you good to stop trying to get people into trouble for suggesting things that have not been said.
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| And his incompetence as hit the Bulls, how many times would that Kear try be disallowed for another player{Langley being offside},but now they are overkilling the rules.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Ganson (and the RFL) have apologised to Rovers and are admitting that a mistake was made - the try should not have stood.
[uApparently Ganson was tracking the wrong bloke [/uwhen he was reviewing the footage, which I thought at the time could be the only probable reason I could see for him giving the try as Green was clearly offside.
I think this is the end for Ganson, it will almost certainly be easier for him to skulk away into the shadows now - in his behind the scenes position - than it would have been had he still been a full time ref.'"
Said this before but didnt he have a thought as to why the guy he was tracking didnt score the try?
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| Quote ="dummyrunner"And his incompetence as hit the Bulls, how many times would that Kear try be disallowed for another player{Langley being offside},but now they are overkilling the rules.'"
How has gansons incompetence hit us? Thaler was video ref ( not that disallowing Kears try was wrong decision)
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| When we drew against Leeds the rhinos scored twice in the first ten minutes, but the second was ruled out when JJB was offside and inside the ten but didn't interfere with play. We've benefited from those rulings too.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Are you hard of understanding or something? Where did I call him a cheat exactly? I said that he cheated HKR out of at least a point. He did. Whether it was a mistake or not, HKR should have had something from the game but they ended up with nothing thanks to Ganson. They were cheated, pure and simple.
Quite similar to when people say that a team were robbed. In this instance it means that they were done out of a result by poor officials and/or an extremely dodgy decision rather than me suggesting that they were actually help up by Dick Turpin on their team coach on the way to the game.
It is a terminology, not a direct accusation against his honesty as an official. Clearly you must be a bit thick if you need me to explain that to you.
Therefore it would do you good to stop trying to get people into trouble for suggesting things that have not been said.'"
Nice backtrack , not .
So he is not a cheat , yet he cheated HKR ?
You say your not questioning his integrity but say he cheated HKR out of a point . Hmm...
I will refrain from any personal insults , and concede that you probably got yourself a little overexercised over this incident .
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| Quote ="Buck Tarbrush"Nice backtrack , not .
So he is not a cheat , yet he cheated HKR ?
You say your not questioning his integrity but say he cheated HKR out of a point . Hmm...
I will refrain from any personal insults , and concede that you probably got yourself a little overexercised over this incident .'"
It was no backtrack as no backtracking was required. You clearly are thick. Either that or you are trying to cause bother without any justification.
I am sure that our Mods would had had a word if I had been out of line, or our resident Lawyer. Number of warnings thus far = 0.
Off you go.
P.S. WTF is "overexercised"? Had I posted from the gym then perhaps so but........
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"No matter how much copy and pasting you do tigertot you can't even attempt to try and belittle our opinion this time pal. Sorry I know I'm clueless aren't I.'"
What you do not like is your hysterical incorrect postings being shown up, which is why you hardly ever respond. Saturday's decision was a monumental cock up which is inexcusable with the technology. You could say it cost HKR the game, however that would suggest it was the only mistake in the whole game that had try scoring consequences.
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| You can say it cost Hull KR because it was the deciding score.
Hysterical incorrect postings? Personal comments again you need to get a life.
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| You silly sausages.
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