|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9554 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Theres and interesting comment from guilfoyle in latest report on sporting life.
Quote He added: "Any purchaser is taking a chance on whether the club will be continuing in the Super League or playing in the Championship next season.
"If it's the latter, then the owner will still be paying Super League wages for up to 20 players for the next year.
'"
Given salary cap is only 300k in Championship, does that imply we'd be given a cap dispensation for any of our under contract players who either can't find another SL club or choose to stick with us?. I was under impression all SL contracts became void if a club drops down to championship.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 67 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2014 | Feb 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I was thinking this the other day. Would we become a rugby version of Portsmouth FC and be stuck with unwanted players on sky high wages? I wouldn't say we would be left with 20 players but could see 5 or 6 who would either be unwanted by other clubs or would not move on due to their wages.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9986 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Didn't Wigan get a dispensation a few years ago?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 277 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2017 | Aug 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| You must remember that players are on Super League contracts, if a club gets relegated to the Championship then all contracts are null and void and need re-negotiating to achieve the lower salery cap. This is what we at Cas had to achieve following our two relegations from SL.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1300 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2018 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="mat"Theres and interesting comment from guilfoyle in latest report on sporting life.
Given salary cap is only 300k in Championship, does that imply we'd be given a cap dispensation for any of our under contract players who either can't find another SL club or choose to stick with us?. I was under impression all SL contracts became void if a club drops down to championship.'"
They do become void if the appropriate clause is inserted into the contracts. However if some dummies forget to put the clause in the contract then the owner will still have to pay SL salaries in the championship.
No dispensation just cr*p management?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4564 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Cripesginger"They do become void if the appropriate clause is inserted into the contracts. However if some dummies forget to put the clause in the contract then the owner will still have to pay SL salaries in the championship.
No dispensation just cr*p management?'"
Don't be ridiculous. In a franchised league with no promotion or relegation, why would they insert clauses about being relegated??
This sounds like ignorance from Guilfoyle. If we were given cap dispensation the other clubs would be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. In any case, there's no way that 20 players are going to hang around if we went into the Championship. It would be a handful at best
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15037 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="paulwalker71"Don't be ridiculous. In a franchised league with no promotion or relegation, why would they insert clauses about being relegated??
This sounds like ignorance from Guilfoyle. If we were given cap dispensation the other clubs would be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. In any case, there's no way that 20 players are going to hang around if we went into the Championship. It would be a handful at best'"
Why would it be a handful at best. With promotion and relegation likely to be introduced at the end of 2013 they could easily be back in super league after a year away.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 8224 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="paulwalker71"Don't be ridiculous. In a franchised league with no promotion or relegation, why would they insert clauses about being relegated??
This sounds like ignorance from Guilfoyle. If we were given cap dispensation the other clubs would be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. In any case, there's no way that 20 players are going to hang around if we went into the Championship. It would be a handful at best'"
Because there's the RFL's option to remove a club's franchise. Therefore I'd imagine that all SL players contracts have a nullification clause should that happen.
If not, then the RFL would have to offer dispensation to the club or would be in a position to force a club to break the RFL's own rules. Which would likely mean an end to the salary cap all together as it IS a restrictment of trade and only allowed to exist due to a gentlemen's agreement between all clubs. Which would mean SL becomes even more lop sided as the clubs with the rich owners throw money at all the best players leaving the scraps for the rest of the league and we end up in a situation like we had in the 80's where only 1 club wins anything.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 27 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2012 | Oct 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| These clauses are inserted "paulwalker" what if a certain player signs a 5 year contract but the club fail to acquire a franchise?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3813 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| It implies that Guilfoyle doesn't know what he's talking about, or else is throwing out another perceived obstacle for a non-preferred bidder to become interested in the club.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 870 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="dannynaughton"These clauses are inserted "paulwalker" what if a certain player signs a 5 year contract but the club fail to acquire a franchise?'"
Doesn't mean the club put one in peoples contracts, after all we achieved a b license in the last round, what was to make them think they'd ever be in a position of being relegated.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 27 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2012 | Oct 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Well it's in my brothers contract in the academy so it's pretty safe to say it will be through all squads.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 27 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2012 | Oct 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The same can be said for a few first grade players who I am personal friends with.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 870 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="dannynaughton"The same can be said for a few first grade players who I am personal friends with.'"
Strange as that contradicts what BullBuilder has been told.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 27 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2012 | Oct 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Oh if it contradicts what the almighty bullbuilder has been told, they must be lying about their contractual agreements. :/
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 470 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2012 | Nov 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The above poster is talking absolute crap
Oh how big he must feel being personal friends of first team bulls players
The academy contracts are completely different to the first teams you balloon
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 27 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2012 | Oct 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Ok I am sorry your knowledge is infallible. I think you will find the clause is prevalent throughout first team deals you condescending prick. Do one!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1722 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2018 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="dannynaughton"Ok I am sorry your knowledge is infallible. I think you will find the clause is prevalent throughout first team deals you condescending prick. Do one!'"
nice knowing you
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 17148 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="dannynaughton"Ok I am sorry your knowledge is infallible. I think you will find the clause is prevalent throughout first team deals you condescending prick. Do one!'"
I'm confused, can you please clarify what this clause says, does it mean SL terms continue into Championship or not?
BTW, is your brother young Knocker...?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 870 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="dannynaughton"Oh if it contradicts what the almighty bullbuilder has been told, they must be lying about their contractual agreements. :/'"
The information came from the RFL and to be honest I'd rather take their word than some keyboard warrior
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 27 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2012 | Oct 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Okay stay faithful to your misapprehension.
|
|
|
|
|