If you're anything like me, you're feeling pretty disappointed with today.

But next week is another week. So my question is 'Given what we saw today, what would be your 17 for the Castleford game?'

I'm assuming Elima, Manu and Pryce are injured.

I'll go for

Kearney
Ainscough
Lulia
Purtell
Kear
Sammut
Gale
Kopczak
L'Estrange
Langley
Whitehead
Walker
Addy

Diskin
Hargreaves
Donaldson
Burgess

I'll wait and see who's fit first. I hope Bateman is as he's in front of Sibbitt and Donaldson for me and of course Whitehead is back.

How far off are Elima and Manuokafosoa (no idea on spelling that)?

I think Elima and Manu are a few weeks off....sadly

And I assuming that Bateman is a serious injury, or at least enough to keep him out next week. If I'm wrong and it was just a bang, then I'd have him at loose instead of Addy. I don't see Bateman as a second rower.

Kearney
Ainscough
Lulia
Purtell
Kear
Sammut
Gale
Kopczak
L'Estrange
Burgess
Whitehead
Walker
Donaldson

Diskin
Hargreaves
Langley
Scruton

Kear
Pryce
Walker
Lulia
Purtell
Sammut
Gale
Scruton
L'etrange
Koppy
Whitehead
Langley
Bateman

Diskin
Burgess
Joseph
Addy

If they're out then after today I'd go with...

Kearney
Crookes
Purtell
Lulia
Kear
Sammut
Gale
Koppy
Diskin
Langley
Walker
Whitehead
Addy

Burgess
Joseph
Donaldson
L'estrange

On further thought, I think I'd want to give Joseph a shot

I'd put him on the bench ahead of Hargreaves in my 17 in the opening post

Manuokafosoa was hoping to be back next week thats what he said at Hull last week.

Anybody know what Batemans injury was? Looked like a dislocated shoulder or broken arm to me.

Hyperextended elbow.

Hopefully Lulia will be passed fit, from what I have seen from him in the NRL he will be a welcome improvement to our backline. For all his effort, Walker still isn't the answer at centre.

Wayne Bennett told his NRL All Stars Team before they went out "the first battle is between your ears"
I get the feeling that the problem is mental fragility not a physical one!

It is, and as many people keep saying, there is a losing mentality running through this club at the moment. Only a few are showing the desire to win. Most need to harden the f**k up.

Kearney
Crookes/Ainscough
Lulia
Purtell
Kear
Sammut
Gale
Kopczak
Diskin
Scruton
Whitehead
Langley
Donaldson

L'Estrange
Burgess
Hargreaves/Joseph
Sibbit/Walker

Only two players missing (Elima and Manase) fom what I consider to be our strongest 17. This game against Cas is far more important than the Catalans game, as I consider Cas to be one of the sides we will be fighting for the last one or two playoff spots.

I have to agree. They give up far too easily.

Kearney
Kear
Lulia
Purtell
Crookes
Sammut
Gale
Langley
L'Estrange
Kopczak
Whitehead
Bateman (if fit) / Donaldson
Addy

Diskin
Joseph
Scruton
Burgess

We need some toughness in the pack, because it's our most obvious weakness. I'd be tempted to bring in Joseph as he seems to have some enthusiasm that others seem to lack. I'd drop Scruton or Hargreaves for him as neither offered anything of note.

I certainly wouldn't go running around making wholesale changes after one game, unsatisfactory as it was. It was big change round in personnel and it will take a bit of time to bed in.

Obviously it depends on who is fit before you can think about next week. I can't see young Bateman coming back from that in a hurry and there may well be other, less obvious, injuries showing up also. I guess Elliott Whitehead will come in for him and I'd think about bringing Phil Joseph into the side, maybe for Hargreaves. With a bit of luck, maybe his enthusiasm will rub off onto everyone else.

Whilst it's really far too early to be making predictions I'd agree that the Cas game is possibly more important as I'd expect them to be around the same area of the table as us come the business end. They looked a good side at the weekend though, and fair enough it was only the 'new boys' but they dug in and ground it out, which is what I suspect we may have to do, if we want the points next Sunday.

Was Hargreaves even playing yesterday? So yes, get Joseph in.

Kearney
Ainscough
Lulia
Purtell
Kear
Sammut
Gale
Kopzcak
L'Estrange
Scruton
Whitehead
Bateman
Donaldson

Diskin
Joseph
Burgess
Langley

my 17:

1 Kear
2 Crookes / ainscough
3 Lulia
4 Kearney
5 Purtell
6 Sammut
7 Gale
8 Kopczac
9 Diskin
10 scruton
11 Whitehead
12 T.Burgess
13 Langley

subs
joseph
L estrange
Jeffries
Donaldson

Kearney in the Centres?? Langley at 13?? Burgess as a 2nd Rower?? Jeffries on bench?? That bench is too lightweight mate.

Kearney
Kear
Lulia
Purtell
Ainscough/Pryce (if fit)
Sammut
Gale
Kopzcac
L'Estrange
Scruton
Walker
Whitehead
Donaldson

Diskin
Langley
Joseph
Burgess

1. Kearney
2. Purtell - Never a centre in a million years, think the ball was glued to his hands yesterday.
3. Karl Pryce - if fit
4. Lulia - if fit


5. Kear
6. Sammut - He looked dangerous everytime he got ball and defended pretty well too
7. Gale
8. Kopczak
9. Diskin
10. Scruton - Did sweet FA against Catalans, but i'd like to give him a run in the team as he may take sometime getting back into the swing of things before last seasons injuries. Before last seaosn he was on of our best props.
11. Whitehead
12. Walker
13. Donaldson

14. L'estrange
15. Burgess - Needs to get fitter
16. Joseph
17. Addy

Think a few first teamers need a reality check and need to realise they need to earn a spot in the team.
I hope to god Potter gives a run of games for Sammut & Gale to gel. Hopefully they could become a decent partnership. Unlike last year when he chopped and change our half backs everyweek.

Eh? He was one of our stand out players, defended really well, and put his winger in for a try. His offload in the centre of the field is also what led to Langley's try. What more do you want ffs?