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| I didnt really want another major overhaul next season but i think its the only way. Along with Herbert and Ah Van we should get rid of Platt, Sykes, Jeffries, Lynch, Hargreaves, Sibbit and Langley. As much as i hate to say it, Langley should go, we should use the money on a loose forward who is going to play games, Langley has had it now. He's class when on the pitch, but he is not on it enough. We need an aggressive Prop and 2nd rower too.
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| Do one of these threads come up everytime we lose? !!
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| It's not just because of today's result, it the season overall.
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| ** sigh **
To save Adey having to come and type it all out again, I will simply remind everyone that you cannot just get rid of people who are under contract. You have to pay them off, and that pay off counts as part of NEXT years salary cap. You then have to use whatever cap space remains to replace people....
So its not straight forward
From your list, Platt, Sykes, Hargreaves, Sibbit, Jeffries and Lynch are under contract. Paying them off would leave us virtually nothing with which to replace them.
If you want to turn your ire on someone, then it needs to be turned on the people who decided to hand out two or three year contracts to those players.
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Do one of these threads come up everytime we lose? !!'"
and no one ever reads the old ones.
so I'm going to try this loud and clear
[size=200IF WE PAY OFF PLAYERS, THAT MONEY GOES AGAINST THE SALARY CAP FOR THE REMAINING TIME OF THEIR CONTRACT. SO PAYING OFF PLAYERS MEAN THAT WE CAN'T USE THAT AMOUNT OF THE SALARY CAP UNTIL THEIR CONTRACT EXPIRES. SO WE WOULD BE IN AN EVEN WEAKER POSITION AND TONKINGS LIKE TODAY'S WOULD BE COME A WEEKLY EVENT [/size
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| Unless of course we manage to persuade/con another club to take someone off our hands on the same money...
Can't see them queuing up though..
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| You can tell the players they're free to find other clubs, as they are not in the coaches plans. If they dont find another club then its tough isnt it, where stuck with them.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Unless of course we manage to persuade/con another club to take someone off our hands on the same money...
Can't see them queuing up though..'"
Can we have Shad back please....
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| Quote ="Diamond Harry"You can tell the players they're free to find other clubs, as they are not in the coaches plans. If they dont find another club then its tough isnt it, where stuck with them.'"
Terrible idea. Are you serious?
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| sibbit has been very good value this year
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| Thank you chaps for saving me having to do the usual!
Diamond Harry - time to rejoin planet earth, I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Thank you chaps for saving me having to do the usual!
Diamond Harry - time to rejoin planet earth, I'm afraid.'"
Fair enough if you want to keep watching the same dross. Everyone has there own opinion.
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| Just shows how bad the club is when we have so much dross in the team but can't get rid of them because their under contract. Sykes had a good game against Giants, but sounded like normal service was resumed as most of the tries came down his side.
Potter can tell players there not in his plans, the player usually wants to leave anyway and from Murphy's twitter a couple of weaks ago (after the cas game i think) he said some players are on thin ice with Potter. Can't get rid of them all as we can't afford another overall.
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| Diamond Harry: none of us do. But the salary cap rules are the rules. If we did what you say, it is likely we will be stuck with a big chunk of unusable salary cap for a couple of years. How precisely would that help us get out of the hole we are in?
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| Big problem with telling players they can find another club IMO is it pretty much demotivates them and also creates bad feeling in dressing room. Good idea on paper which doesn't work in practise.
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| Quote ="mat"Big problem with telling players they can find another club IMO is it pretty much demotivates them and also creates bad feeling in dressing room. Good idea on paper which doesn't work in practise.'"
The only logical reason I can see for telling them with this much of the season remaining is just common courtesy. This way they have a decent amount of time to secure their future within the game at a different club.
Unfortunately it will undoubtedly have a negative impact on the remainder of our season.
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| Quote ="Nothus"The only logical reason I can see for telling them with this much of the season remaining is just common courtesy. This way they have a decent amount of time to secure their future within the game at a different club.
Unfortunately it will undoubtedly have a negative impact on the remainder of our season.'"
Yes, I had made the point a few weeks ago when Ah Van went off the boil form wise that Terry Newton's form in his last season with us nose dived at almost exactly the same time and that this had been down to him being told he was not going to get a new deal at Bradford. This is also why you get a lot of signings announced round this time of year, in spite of the "anti-tamper" deadline, clubs and players tend to know what they want to be doing next year long before their deal runs out for this year
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| You would expect in those circumstances that the player would raise their game to attract a new club. Doesn't seem to happen in reality though.
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| Quote ="mat"You would expect in those circumstances that the player would raise their game to attract a new club. Doesn't seem to happen in reality though.'"
Because that's the job of agents.
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| Quote ="mat"You would expect in those circumstances that the player would raise their game to attract a new club. Doesn't seem to happen in reality though.'"
It seems to have worked with the Crusaders players today
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"It seems to have worked with the Crusaders players today'"
Way crusaders players have responded is exactly what I would expect. Our players never seem to respond that way for some reason
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| They did vs Hudds.
Then its back to same old same old.
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| Quote ="Diamond Harry"I didnt really want another major overhaul next season but i think its the only way. Along with Herbert and Ah Van we should get rid of Platt, Sykes, Jeffries, Lynch, Hargreaves, Sibbit and Langley. As much as i hate to say it, Langley should go, we should use the money on a loose forward who is going to play games, Langley has had it now. He's class when on the pitch, but he is not on it enough. We need an aggressive Prop and 2nd rower too.'"
I`d keep Hargreaves & Jefferies but the the rest need to go
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