SPORTING VILLAGE PLANS GIVEN GREEN LIGHT

Councillors have agreed to go ahead with a £75 million total redevelopment option for Odsal Sports Village.



Specialists will now be appointed to develop the project further.



Jane Glaister, Bradford Council's strategic director of culture, tourism and sport, told the meeting of the executive there had initially been four options for Odsal, but these were whittled down to two, which "deliver on expectations".



Of the two options, the £75m one contains a new stadium for Bradford Bulls, a community sports facility with a 25-metre pool, and a 120-bed hotel. It will mean a completely new 18,000 all-seat stadium created by raising the pitch level by 15 metres, 80,000sq ft of sports retail and extra parking.



This was favoured over a £57 million option, which would have seen the existing stadium redeveloped with seats and a cantilevered roof added to the existing east stand.



Councillor Adrian Naylor, the executive member for regeneration, praised the work which had gone into moving the project forward. Council Leader Kris Hopkins added:



"It's going to be delivered by 2012 as it will be the year of the London Olympics. Let's not miss this opportunity."



Peter Hood, chairman of the Bulls, described the sports village as an opportunity to put Bradford back on the map again.



"It delivers a stadium that's fit for the 21st century and this will reflect very well on this city," he said.



Funding levels currently guaranteed totals £19.1m - with =#FF0040Bradford Council earmarking £15m of that from funds released by the sale of Leeds-Bradford Airport - and the remainder from regional development agency Yorkshire Forward.



The project's steering group hopes to =#FF0040bring in £18.5m in commercial retail and sponsorship, =#FF0040£15m in contributions from its primary partners - such as the Bulls, =#FF0000Bradford College, =#FF0000Bradford University, =#FF0000NHS Bradford and Airedale - as well as more from Yorkshire Forward.



A further £14.8m could come from external grant funding, such as the European Regional Development Fund, Sport England, the Football Foundation, and the governing bodies of various sports.



Seems Bradford Uni and College not exempt, ya even taking money from the NHS!!!! and the council using funds from the sale of Leeds/Bradford Airport, pot and kettle comes to mind me thinks





The Bulls talkin it again welcome to 2010 and a new season

Grow up eh?



There is the world of difference between bodies investing in new sports facilities - bricks and mortar - for all (and councils have obligations in this regard anyway) and a college sponsoring a sports team to the tune of (it would seem) several million pounds a year with nothing tangible to show for it.



At least we do not depend for our continuing existence on one rich owner, without whom we would be bankrupt immediately, or owe our status in SL to having fortuitously come heir to a big modern stadium which the world knows was the only reason the RFL was so desperate to admit the club.



And anyway, I see we have the universities screaming about the effect of (inevitable big) budget cuts on higher education, which warnings will be seriously undermined by the Leeds Met scandal when people see to what use Leeds Met put a sizeable chunk of the budget they enjoyed?

Leaving aside the small chances of it ever happening, I can't pass up the opportunity to make you look an even bigger prat than normal.



"Taking money from the NHS?" You idiot. The NHS contribution referred to is the derelict former hospital site on the hill behind the stadium. The site would be leveled (with hundreds of thousands of tons of spoil used to part-fill the Odsal bowl rather than having to be trucked away) and the leveled site used for the new pool and other indoor sports and leisure facilities, including the replacement for the Richard Dunn centre. Nothing whatsoever to do with the Bulls.



The university and college would be investing in the general sporting facilities, to give them access to and use of greatly-improved facilities in a city currently very poorly served.



The council would be knocking down the Richard Dunn sports centre and freeing up the whole of that large site for development, saving themselves a shedload in running costs into the process. No surprises they would seek to allocate some of the airport windfall into building the new facilities?



OK, so was there anything else you wanted to make yourself look a prat over?

I'd also like to add that NHS local care direct would move to that site with surgeries there in much the same way as at the Halliwell Jones stadium. There would also be the associated cost reductions in NHS treatment avoided through proper leaisure and sports provision in South Bradford.



How many more times does this need explaining to fans of other RL clubs and Bradford City the OSV IS NOT JUST A STADIUM FOR THE BULLS!!!!

You can shout that as often as you like. Unfortunately, on these boards there's always morons who will only accept their own, made up truths and will ignore inconvinent things like simple, black and white, straightforward facts.



It's much more fun for them, at least until it's colouring in time

should also be noted that according to todays t&a piece, the 15 million from the airport sale is NOT going towards funding the stadium part of the OSV and is purely towards the sports and community aspects of the development. The stadium is to be funded entirely by bulls, bradford college and other assorted partners in the scheme which takes the wind out of the city fans moaning about the council building us a stadium pretty comprehensively. Wether it ever happens is another matter but we live in hope.

Adey, you amaze me in how you continuously own people on these forums.





One can only aspire to become as knowledgeable poster as you

Oh so you will be like the Giants then and not own your own stadium Blah Blah Blah

Thought there would be a world of difference seen as it involves the Bulls, always something to set ya aside from the rest.



Spouting the garbage about our rich owner to detract from topic is expected but ATEOTD the Bulls will be playing in a stadium paid for by public money that could have been used for other more important things which is where your argument about leeds ect falls down.



Back to your own little fantasy world the Bulls can do no wrong

Oh dear, you are going to look an even bigger prat now







See, the thing IS, the council have stated that they will be making no direct contribution to the stadium itself (if the project ever goes ahead). And other public money currently pledged (like from Yorkshire Forward) is for other parts of the development. Its been made clear the Bulls (with the help of their partners) will have to find other sources of funding even though the stadium is seen as vital to attracting the inward investment to the scheme as a whole.



So hope you enjoy looking an even bigger prat now?



By the way, how many millions of public money, from Kirklees Council (40% shareholder, or was) and from various national sources (grants covered half the cost, apparently), went into building the McAlpine (as was)? Giving you "... a stadium paid for by public money that could have been used for other more important things..."? As well as looking a total prat, you reveal yourself also to be a screaming great hypocrite.



And its not garbage about Ken Davy; if he walked away and required repayment (or worse) tomorrow, the rugby club company - with net liabilities of over £5m on latest published figures - would fold immediately unless another Ken Davy immediately took over and injected similar millions. That would not happen to Bulls, or Leeds for that matter. But it would to you.



Now, where were we...?

It's gone awfully quiet . . . . . .. hasn't it

We were supposed to be dissing Leeds, Huddersfield & Warrington for using public money? The Bulls will be playing in a Stadium built using funds from the likes of Bradford Uni and College, sale of Leeds/Bradford airport, read it yourself its on the Bulls official website, the Bulls apparently will only use the bit paid for by themselves according to you.



I have not denied that the Galpharm (IS NOT JUST A STADIUM FOR THE GIANTS maccbull

) was built using council money but the hYPOCRITE is you ADEYBULL who are in denial that Bradford will be playing in a Stadium built using part public funds which ever way you try to disguise and dress it up.



If I look a prat and a hypocrite (so be it, Im not the only one!!) because I dare to question the drivel you have written and you don't like a differing opinion on your forum, it's all gotta be one way else teddy leaves the pram, I have never said we wouldn't struggle if Ken Davy walked away and I am sure it's a well known fact (although what that has to do with topic here I am unsure), what I meant by saying you wrote garbage about Ken Davy is that it's always brought up maybe trying to deflect away from the real issue?



That is that Bradford Bulls will be in a very simular situation to Huddersfield Giants stadium wise!!



So from the prat and the hypocrite, the Bulls are wonderful, will never do anything wrong, Leeds, Huddersfield, Warrington and the rest however are a differen't matter.



Not much of a forum if you don't want other people's opinions on the matter, but thats Bradford





PS Slightly off topic but are ya gonna win the league again this year as predicted last season?

Bullseye

It has, absolute silence all off in land of nod I suppose

It appears that the quietness means absolutely diddly squat now the boots on the other foot as they say

Grow up. If you want to post at 4am then good for you. Most normal people are asleep then.



Oh, and read [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/4845706._Odsal_plan_is_viable__even_without_City/this[/url. Then you will have a clearer understanding of why you are talking a load of balls. You seem unable to distinguish between the stadium component and the wider project.

But surely the article is making the point that the project as a a whole is a package. Other agencies money may not directly go into the stadium but architecture, planning applications, land clearance ( filling the big hole in the ground) are all joint costs. Whether money is being given directly ( probably not) are indirectly as joint costs ( probably). The point is that Bradford Bulls themselves cannot build a stadium=#FF0000 ALONE in the same way that no RL team in the last twenty years ( or next 20) could.

But your opinion is wrong. As it's already been clearly explained to you where your arguement is flawed. Probably you aren't actually reading the links provided for you that explain the OSV project in detail. You'd make an excellent redtop journo with your ability to hang doggedly on to one tiny facet of a story and fill in the blanks with what you think sounds good instead of actual fact

Thank God all Hudds fans are not like that Flyingprat idiot!



And yes indeed, that point is very much coming across. If it ever goes ahead, of course there has to be public money going into the general site and general infractructure. Add in things like road civil works and access too. Regarding filling in the hole, the plan is to level the hill on the adjacent NHS site and tip it all in the hole. Any development on that land would require some works of that nature.



The point I was taking issue with the well-known troll was that this would not be a stadium paid for by public money. Sounds like the stadium building itself itself will have to be financed privately somehow - and God knows how without a retail component. Bulls would be providing the site, and would presumably be one of a number of shareholders in a new not-for-profit stadium operating company and would have to pay substantial rent to that company for use of the stadium.



The previous plan a few years ago, for a bigger (too big) stadium and not that much else was - like the Wire stadium and like I think the Saints stadium will be - called for it to be financed substantially by the Tesco development. Unfortunately, for some very strange reason in Bradford, Tesco can develop huge stores (with a big non-food element) on Canal Road and Great Horton Road, and Asda on Cemetery Road and Morrisons with Matalan on Mayo Avenue, yet a similar development at Odsal was not allowed to proceed - and to my dying day I am sure I know why. So that route is closed to Bulls.

Absolute rubbish, Public money will be used wether you want us to believe it or not.



The point of me posting is that I take issue with the PROPER IDIOTS WHO POST STUFF ABOUT OTHER TEAMS to try get a reaction and then don't like it when someone reacts!!!!!



If that makes me a Troll so be it, I won't be the 1st and certainly won't be the last.



By The way, may be of interest to you? possibly not:-



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Are you really so stupid that you cannot understand what has been said on this thread and in the posted links?



When you come on here with outright lies like "...ya even taking money from the NHS!!!!", and then deny the facts when placed straight in front of you, its not debate. Its you refusing to accept that your argument is seriously flawed. And remember sunshine, we've all seen your blatant trolling last season so we have your measure.



And, worst of all, it was YOU who diverted the argument in the first place. At issue was the £8m exit payment to Leeds Rugby - regarding team sponsorship and whether that was good use of public money. The issue was not about public money used to build proper sporting facilities - something that few on this thread have taken issue with. You diverted the issue onto that, and have only yourself to blame for the reaction - especially when you took on people who had a rather better understanding of the Odsal project (and maybe other matters too) than you took the trouble to gain.



So can I just say that the point of me posting is that I take issue with the PROPER IDIOTS WHO POST STUFF ABOUT OTHER TEAMS to try get a reaction and then don't like it when someone reacts! But hang on...hasn't some screaming great hypocrite already said just those very words on this thread? Surely not...?



Definitely warrants a

Why come back here FP? You're doing so well on Southstander.

Thanks mate

lets stay on topic though eh mods

Sorry but I am just posting on an online forum about a subject not raisedby me but seems a little inaccurate to say the least.



You Keep banging on about the Bulls not using public money but might be worth reading the details on the Bulls own website, list a few places the funds coming from.



We will just wait and see and can guarentee will all come out in the wash if it ever does happen.