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| [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/4482271.Is_Burgess_off_to_Australia_/Clicky[/url
Sounds bad.If he goes to Manly i'd want Orford, Lyon, Perry, Kite or Watmough + £££.
I do think letting him leave would be a bad move for the club, but if he wants to go it's not fair to make him stay. I still think a Iestyn type contract with Leeds should be pursued so that when he returns it will be with us. Even if it breaks, we'll get some compensation.
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| Swap for Lyon and Williams, would fix the backs
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| Still believe what he went on record saying a while ago.
He'll honour his Bradford contract before going.
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| surely if he is desperate to go then Bulls should let him as would he give his all to the Club if they didn't release him - I personally think a change of scene might help him as when I have seen him this year I;ve not been too impressed - indeed Luke IMO is looking better at present than Sam
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| I'm sure all Manly's top stars are currently in their dressing room fighting it out amongst themselves to be the ones offered to us.
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| Quote ="Asim"I'm sure all Manly's top stars are currently in their dressing room fighting it out amongst themselves to be the ones offered to us.'"
we have the "naked run" if you don't score a try all season, they have go to the Bulls if you don't score all season
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| Quote ="Asim"I'm sure all Manly's top stars are currently in their dressing room fighting it out amongst themselves to be the ones offered to us.'"
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| The wall of silence from the club is frightening, the rumours of Sam leaving for an NRL team have been gaining pace for well over a week now yet we have heard nothing from the club to kill these rumours and assure fans than we are keeping our star player.
It's strange, because when the rumours of Nobby coming back to the club the club were out in force to kill them.
Come on Bulls, give us the good news.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"The wall of silence from the club is frightening, the rumours of Sam leaving for an NRL team have been gaining pace for well over a week now yet we have heard nothing from the club to kill these rumours and assure fans than we are keeping our star player.
It's strange, because when the rumours of Nobby coming back to the club the club were out in force to kill them.
Come on Bulls, give us the good news.'"
Why should the club respond to every rumour that comes up regarding players and coaches coming and going?
Did they ever respond to the Vainikolo to Leeds rumours which were going around for months?
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| Quote ="Asim"I'm sure all Manly's top stars are currently in their dressing room fighting it out amongst themselves to be the ones offered to us.'"
I am glad you have found some way to smile in all this, most on here just moan.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"Did they ever respond to the Vainikolo to Leeds rumours which were going around for months?'"
Nope.
But the move to deny the Noble rumour came out of the blue and seemed quite out of character given the reluctance to makes statements about rumours in the past.
Not sure what was going on there.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Nope.
But the move to deny the Noble rumour came out of the blue and seemed quite out of character given the reluctance to makes statements about rumours in the past.
Not sure what was going on there.'"
Maybe the club saw it as an opportunity to show that McNamara was the preferred coaching choice and that they had no regrets when Noble left?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Nope.
But the move to deny the Noble rumour came out of the blue and seemed quite out of character given the reluctance to makes statements about rumours in the past.
Not sure what was going on there.'" Funnily enough someone hasn't been around since then.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"Maybe the club saw it as an opportunity to show that McNamara was the preferred coaching choice and that they had no regrets when Noble left?'"
Like another vote of confidence? Possibly but it did seem very much out of character for the club who never commented on rumours concerning employees in the past.
Quote ="redeverready"Funnily enough someone hasn't been around since then.'"
I was just wondering if this thread might provoke a comment from that direction.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"Why should the club respond to every rumour that comes up regarding players and coaches coming and going?
Did they ever respond to the Vainikolo to Leeds rumours which were going around for months?'"
Why shouldn't they, it's our club as much as theirs and we want to know what is going on in regards to the star player our money has helped develop.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Why shouldn't they, it's our club as much as theirs and we want to know what is going on in regards to the star player our money has helped develop.'"
Why don't you ask Stuart Duffy then?
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"Why don't you ask Stuart Duffy then?'"
I have done, he didn't answer.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"
I was just wondering if this thread might provoke a comment from that direction.'" It's made it's first appearance on the T&A for weeks on the Tupou story.
Do you remember what Stuart Duffy said to me at the forum.
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| I hope Sam goes to the NRL and furthers his career, because he aint going to get no better here, been coached by donkeys and team mates that are not up to pennine league level. A move to Manly would be his best option. £1m for a 3 year deal, he should bite there hands off.
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| There seems to be some momentum in these stories, but are they actually a story? Burgess wants to play in the NRL at some point. Some clubs in the NRL think he is quite good and would like him. No s*** Sherlock.
Im not sure I think he is going anywhere. I think he will see out his contract with the Bulls, then go, for a new challenge. Just like Fielden did.
Oh hang on...
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| Quote ="debaser"There seems to be some momentum in these stories, but are they actually a story? Burgess wants to play in the NRL at some point. Some clubs in the NRL think he is quite good and would like him. No s*** Sherlock.
Im not sure I think he is going anywhere. I think he will see out his contract with the Bulls, then go, for a new challenge..'"
Agree that there is no story yet, as you say obvious statements from some clubs about his potential - as you'd expect.
Its certain that if he keeps injury free and further develops his skills and stamina he will be at some time be ready to mix it in the physical arena of NRL.
To go there within the next 2 seasons will see him unready and getting the cr*p beat out of him on a regular basis.
Lets remember how few players have made that step successfully.
Elliss(so far), Morley, Howard(perhaps) and they were battle-hardened before they went.
If Sam sees his contract out at the Bulls to 2011 then probably the right time to chance his arm at the ripe old age of 23!
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"Agree that there is no story yet, as you say obvious statements from some clubs about his potential - as you'd expect.
Its certain that if he keeps injury free and further develops his skills and stamina he will be at some time be ready to mix it in the physical arena of NRL.
To go there within the next 2 seasons will see him unready and getting the cr*p beat out of him on a regular basis.
Lets remember how few players have made that step successfully.
Elliss(so far), Morley, Howard(perhaps) and they were battle-hardened before they went.
If Sam sees his contract out at the Bulls to 2011 then probably the right time to chance his arm at the ripe old age of 23!'"
tend to agree with most of that. having said that I wouldn't be too surprised, or disapointed, if we agreed to sam going a year early at end of 2010 season inexchange for some cash and or a player.
If we allow him to leave at end of season then club is effectively signing its own death warrant imo.
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| Quote ="chpntpsr"Swap for Lyon and Williams, would fix the backs'" Whats the quota situation like at the bulls?? Could you fit the players into the squad??
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Whats the quota situation like at the bulls?? Could you fit the players into the squad??'"
Lyon could have Morrison's quota place, Williams could have Tadulala's
Not very likely though
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| Quote ="chpntpsr"Lyon could have Morrison's quota place, Williams could have Tadulala's
Not very likely though'"
semi wont take up a quota spot next year. he can apply for federation trained for 2010 season under crazy RFL quota system.
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