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| Anyone else heard the Newton to Wakefield rumours?
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I dont know if you read this viewtopic.php?t=417251 and posted ur comment or not.
Hows he played this year, Is he OOC?
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I dont know if you read this viewtopic.php?t=417251 and posted ur comment or not.
Hows he played this year, Is he OOC?
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| I think he's out of contract at the end of the season.
He's played really well in patches, gone missing in other games and has slowed down quite a bit.
I still rate him highly. Has a very good rugby brain and has learnt the lessons of his notorious past (although some would argue this has taken the edge off his game).
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| I commented the other day that he's not as bad as he used to be, but he's not as good either.
By that, I meant he's nowhere near as dirty a player as he has been in the past any more. Unfortunately, along with it, he's not the top hooker he once was.
He's still a good player and on his day, can be a game winner. Unfortunately, he's just not as consistent and he has quite a few quiet games.
If Wakefield are taking him though, can we please have Brad Drew? That way, we'd get the better of the deal imo.
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| It wouldn't suprise me if Rinaldi was our first choice hooker next year with Godwin backing up. Does anybody know if Rinaldi is staying?
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| On his day Newton is excellent but he can try and do his own thing a bit too much which disrupts the team.
He's not the player he was that's for sure but we shouldn't allow him to leave unless we can sign somebody better. Dummy half is absolutely crucial in the modern game, you can have a great squad yet struggle without a decent hooker.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"you can have a great squad yet struggle without a decent hooker.'"
As we proved when Hudson got banned and left us having to play Robbie, Deacs or Aaron Smith there. As soon as Hendo arrived, it changed everything.
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| It's in one of the papers. They are after Newton and Shane Tronc. It mentioned Drew to Cas, too
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| Hope that the rumours about us going for Obst are wide of the mark.
We need a proven top quality player as our regular dummy half. If Newton is allowed to leave then the replacement must be better or as good. Obst is neither.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Hope that the rumours about us going for Obst are wide of the mark.
We need a proven top quality player as our regular dummy half. If Newton is allowed to leave then the replacement must be better or as good. Obst is neither.'"
I for one would be very dissapointed if we signed Obst.
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| I heard he weas going to Cas. Nailed on.
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| Quote ="Steam Pig"I for one would be very dissapointed if we signed Obst.'"
I too.
He has his moments, but he's certainly not good enough to be replacing a player of Newton's ability.
I'd be even more disappointed if we ended up getting Leo-Latu.
Brad Drew please. If not him, look elsewhere.
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| When he first arrived he had to serve a lengthy ban because of offences committed whilst at Wigan. I think Terry owes us a good thumping of someone in our last match if he is leaving. referably an opposition player.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Hope that the rumours about us going for Obst are wide of the mark.
We need a proven top quality player as our regular dummy half. If Newton is allowed to leave then the replacement must be better or as good. Obst is neither.'"
And who mooted the Obst to Bulls rumour on here first?
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| Then maybe we are signing wing as a no 9 and another stand off? That would totally re-define our team for next season. But, seriously, I don't think we should let Newton go, he still has some excellent games.
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| I've heard good things about the Barrow hooker, think he's called Andy Ellis. Supposedly the best player outside super league. Think he would be worth a look. If you look at Higham, and Fisher there's a couple of hookers that have made the step up.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Hope that the rumours about us going for Obst are wide of the mark.
We need a proven top quality player as our regular dummy half. If Newton is allowed to leave then the replacement must be better or as good. Obst is neither.'"
Neither is Rinaldi in my books.
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| Quote ="beefy1"I've heard good things about the Barrow hooker, think he's called Andy Ellis. Supposedly the best player outside super league. Think he would be worth a look. If you look at Higham, and Fisher there's a couple of hookers that have made the step up.'"
And both are garbage.
We've got a hooker in the reserves that is grabbing the headlines, I would sooner see him given a shot to stake his claim that go and sign else.
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| Unfortunately getting rid of Terry and signing Obst wouldn't be a surprise, however once again it would be a retrograde step, let's hope we have more ambition. Rinaldi has for the most part looked as good as Terry this last few weeks, so i wouldn't be surprised to see us keep him as a utility and competition with Godwin for the interchange, but I don't see either as a first choice. However if Obst is ever considered a first choice for a team like the Bulls then I would really begin to fear for our future.
I'd have no problem with Terry leaving, I think he's probably past his best, but we need a quality replacement to send out the right message, and as Bullseye points out, hooker is now an absolutely pivotal role.
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| surprised no ones mentioned the diskin rumour that went round a few weeks back in this thread yet
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| As I have said on other threads, Newton leaving wouldn't be a huge blow if the replacement was of the right quality. Newton is still a decent hooker who can throw a decent pass out from dummy half but he is almost static nowadays. He rarely scoots from the PTB and isn't the support player he once was.
Diskin is an interesting name to be thrown into the ring, I'd be surprised if he wasn't looking for a move given his limited game time at Leeds now.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"As I have said on other threads, Newton leaving wouldn't be a huge blow if the replacement was of the right quality. Newton is still a decent hooker who can throw a decent pass out from dummy half but he is almost static nowadays. He rarely scoots from the PTB and isn't the support player he once was.
Diskin is an interesting name to be thrown into the ring, I'd be surprised if he wasn't looking for a move given his limited game time at Leeds now.'"
I wouldn't mind Diskin, but if Newton was to go, I think we'd need a signing with a real rugby brain which we have no doubts Newton posesses. I'd sign Newton on a 1 or 2 yr deal, but if we can find somebody better (Obviously not Obst) I wouldn't mind. I agree with the statement that it would be a bad step to sign Obst, it would show we have no ambition.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I wouldn't mind Diskin, but if Newton was to go, I think we'd need a signing with a real rugby brain which we have no doubts Newton posesses. I'd sign Newton on a 1 or 2 yr deal, but if we can find somebody better (Obviously not Obst) I wouldn't mind. I agree with the statement that it would be a bad step to sign Obst, it would show we have no ambition.'"
doubt if newton would settle for enything less than a 2 year deal at this stage of his career. Theres been rumours linking him with a move back to wigan. Would mike mcilorum (sp) at wigan be worth a look? seems to be out of favour a bit but could be a development type prospect.
Personally prefer us to give horton a shot, but we'd probably need to give him a run this year and see how he goes at first team level, as its a bit too much off a risk imo to go into a fresh season depending on a reserve level player to make the step up to a key position. Can't really say I'm too keen on prospect of Wagga as first choice hooker. If we could retain rinaldi and use him as first choice with wagga and horton used in games as appropriate then that might be the way to go. (would also give us some cover in halves with rinaldi).
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| what about jimmy lowes he's had his tilt at coaching,still a better bet than turry at 9 me thinks?
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| Thought Diskin, Newton and Drew were all going to Cas. Its definate. Apparently.
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