Disappointing would be the word I'd use. In my opinion the main factor in Bradford's defeat was that we showed a lack of professionalism today which is hard to take from a side of well experienced players.

Far from trying to blame the referee, I just think that his decisions were laughable at best today and helped Saints kick into gear and swing the momentum of the game. Saints were very professional today though right to the last minute, showed when they pushed us back over our own line, and the game questioned whether our captain is up to the job. When you are on the receiving end of a couple of shockers like we were, the captain needs to do his job and fire up the team to prevent the try onslaught that we received before half time.

There were a few players that went missing today too when Saints turned the heat up, most noticeably for me Burgess. I don't know whether he is starting to believe his own hype, but today he was just lazy. Barely got himself back to the defensive line after the rare occasions that he made tackles, didn't run with much enthusiasm and didn't really justify his selection.

A lot of work is needed from both the coaching staff and the players after that one. McNamara needs to make better use of his substitutions for a kick off, and a tough week's training is warranted starting at the crack of dawn tomorrow.

On the bright side, it's good to see Scruton starting to get some of his fire back and Whitehead put up a decent show for himself. Still, T&A headlines tomorrow will still be about McNamara seeing plenty of positives to work on rather than that the truth.

Score line flattered Saints...our big problem was the lack of performance of key men. Menzies, Jefferies, Halley and Burgess to name 4. Surprisingly I thought Deacon was our best half back today so good on him. All in all we did alright but doing alright doesnt cut it against Saints

To be fair I didn't think we played that bad today I just think saints were just to good for us in the end alot stronger and faster than us

Possibly a bit harsh on Menzies, to me he just showed his age today as he's just not up to 80 minutes at centre anymore. In the first half he was pretty effective, but was clearly tiring at about 30-35 minutes and McNamara should have spelled him until after the break. That's not to say I thought he had a great game, he just didn't have as good a game as he has previously.

The basic errors which have been effecting us all season were truly evident today and they were the thing that influenced the result the most.

Meh - scored enough points to compete, but once again got blitzed for twenty or so points in ten minutes.

Not too disappointed with that. Some silly errors but at least Deacon seems to be improving. We went error free for the first half hour or so and Saints giving away cheap penalties actually slowed us down. Our disallowed try should have stood and one of Saints shouldn't. It was a more even contest than the scoreline dictates. Eastmond should have been in the bin and others could have been close, for whatever reason Saints seemed dirty today.

This keeps getting said every week.

Why what's your reasoning behind this.

I thought we played really well in patches but just weren't consistent enough and Saints capitalised on it. Thaler didn't help but it wasn't him who missed tackles or threw poor passes.

Also, I hope that whoever threw that half full bottle of coke towards the tunnel at the end of the game gets identified. No need for that at all.

and yet you still do

Saint's knocked on and Morro(?) I think got it down : TRY.

Jon Wilkin obstructed Langley and then whoever scored the apparent try knocked on over the line but the idiot (sorry I mean ref) gave it.

Was it Eastmond? He was one of those thugs at the game today.

It was absolutely disgusting. Missed hime by about 5 feet.

I think you'll find of both occasions it was the ingoal judge who made the calls who IMO is a little closer than us. As for the Bradford try it wasn't obvious what it was ruled out for but the IGJ saw something. The Saints one Thaler was going to rule knock on it was the IGJ who said it was grounded.

Well from where I was stood the Saints one looked a certain knock on, but maybe i'm just a bit bitter

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The worst call of the match was not sending Eastmond off, I was directly next to the incident and he basically gave BJ a crack round the face. Disgusting, reckon Leon might have taught him that one. It annoyed me at how many times the ref blew up for high tackles but didn't bother to sin-bin any of them.

If the Bulls hadn't ridiculously opted for 2 points when Saints were on the brink of collapse, a completely different game could have ensued.

As it was, field position surrendered and that's what Saints do to you.

Exactly.

Justin Morgan wasn't wrong, Thaler is a disgrace, might as well not bother with linesmen either as they don't flag for forward passes or offside,

Lack of consistency in referees is really starting to p iss me off

This was a bit of a turning point. If I'd been under the saints posts i'd have considered it a battle won - defend 3+ consecutive sets and then see the opposition decide to kick the third penalty they've received in a short space of time. It gave such a loud message from the Bulls of accepting that they couldn't get it over the line.

Terry was clearly furious at this coming from the bench and let Basil know it.

so the eight tries we scored didnt count then?

the biggest bunch of sour grapes ive seen from a poster..

It was nowhere near grounded. Shocking call.

I also heard that in 2002 they robbed you as well

I don't think anyone on here is denying you your victory. The best side won on the day for sure. At times, the Bulls just could not live with your pace and power. Big Maurie coming on just tore us apart. What I would give for a player like like (ala Paul Anderson) top come on for us. We are lacking that at the moment.

However, momentum matters and had we been rightly given the try that was disallowed, we would have been 18 points up with the ball back. Instead, after an error by us, you are given a try that you should never have had and its a different game. I'm pretty sure we would still have lost but it would have been tighter.

And another ref, another day, Eastmond might have walked. That would have changed things for sure. I really didn't see it from where I was though so who knows...

On the whole it wasn't a bad performance I thought. We had spells when we looked useful and played some good Rugby, I particularly enjoyed the tries from the Menzies break and the lovely bit of centre play by Nero for Semi's try. But those silly errors in the 1st half cost us dear and probably took the game away from us.

I thought Burgess looked a little flat which was a problem because we struggled to compete with Saints big men. We still lack that impact prop that we can bring on from the bench to lift the side like Maurie and Puletua did for Saints.

On a positive note I thought Deacon showed glimpses of his old self without ever fully imposing himself on the game. I thought Nero carried on his excellent form and looks to have formed a dangerous partnership with Semi.

I don't think we learnt anything we didn't already know though today. If you make mistakes against a Saints team who in form, then you're unlikely to come out on top. It is hard to look past Saints for the trophies this year from what I have seen so far.

The lads now have to find some energy for the short turnaround against Leeds on Friday. Looks likely that we will be without Rinaldi and Morrison for that match too. With only one hooker available we will need top class performances from BJ and Deacon if we're to compete.