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| [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sportbulls/sportbullsheadlines/4440970.Bulls_make_big_money_offer_to_Aussie_Test_star/Wing story, scroll down to comments[/url
Quote Lazy journalism. Simply picking up on what is already being covered in other media outlets.
A local newspaper like the T&A should have sources in place to break stories like this rather than follow the pack a day later.
Where was Craven last week at the fans forum? It gets a mention in this weeks RL Express - mainly due to a rousing speech from Paul Medley about the pride and passion at the club. He also talked about youth development and the shift in emphasis since McNamara became Head Coach.
Why wasn't this covered by Craven? Given the current mood at the club and criticism of those in charge, this should have been the main headline story last Thursday. Did Craven even attend the forum?'"
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| Who's question got Medders up and Craven was there.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Craven was there.'"
Why no story then? Plenty of interesting info seemed to come out there.
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| Quote ="af"Why no story then? Plenty of interesting info seemed to come out there.'"
Exactly, he was quick with the doom laden article following the Celtic debarcle. Why not so quick with positive open stuff from the club?
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| Craven is a Rhino Na na na na!
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| Quote ="Duckman"Exactly, he was quick with the doom laden article following the Celtic debarcle. Why not so quick with positive open stuff from the club?'"
You never know, maybe he wanted to cover it but the editor wouldn't give him the column inches. After all, was there anything substantial announced other than what would have been termed 'believist propaganda' on southstander?
The YEP is obviously pro Leeds but from what I've read differs little from the T&A in being a medium for identikit press releases about how the players aren't going to take the opposition lightly or reporting potential signings after reading southstander etc
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| Odd.
Usually the posters on T&A are derided by some on here for being little more than a "pack of idiots". Now when someone says something reasonably positive then it is worthy of its' own thread?
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| Gave it its own thread because I think it's a fair point. Why no story? Column inches can't be an excuse, given that there is at least one Buls article every day regardless as to whether there is any actual news.
The Fans Forum clearly made a big impact on here. Yet the T&A ignored it. That's worth a headscratch, surely?
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| Quote ="af"Gave it its own thread because I think it's a fair point. Why no story? Column inches can't be an excuse, given that there is at least one Buls article every day regardless as to whether there is any actual news.
The Fans Forum clearly made a big impact on here. Yet the T&A ignored it. That's worth a headscratch, surely?'"
I agree.
Someone that was there though might confirm this but I am sure that I read that a few mumbles were made about Mr Cravens' article after the Crusaders game. Maybe he was just in the huff and being a big child?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I agree.
Someone that was there though might confirm this but I am sure that I read that a few mumbles were made about Mr Cravens' article after the Crusaders game. Maybe he was just in the huff and being a big child?'"
Yes. It was mentioned and I imagine Mr. Craven wasn't too happy about the comments made regarding his article.
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| I was at the forum and I could see that the club weren't particularly happy with the Craven article after the Celtic game. However they were quite diplomatic given that he was in the room with 300 fans. I suspect there was a more frank exchange between the club and Craven when the article came out.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"You never know, maybe he wanted to cover it but the editor wouldn't give him the column inches. After all, was there anything substantial announced other than what would have been termed 'believist propaganda' on southstander?
The YEP is obviously pro Leeds but from what I've read differs little from the T&A in being a medium for identikit press releases about how the players aren't going to take the opposition lightly or reporting potential signings after reading southstander etc'"
there is an element of that (as there is at every local paper in the land, quite rightly), but the point af was making (I think) was that the piece after the Celtic game was not that. It was an accurate reflection of the prevailing mood of some following the club and it was a decent piece of journalstic licence, not provided by the club, quite obviously. So when the club outline a lot of issues in the background at the club at an open forum that definatley did turn some opinion/attitudes towards the club, on here at least...why did he not exercise the same licence and print/expand on some of the issues raised and how the club are addressing each and every one? other than the Lynch resigning which he did report.
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| Still no comment from the service crew then...............
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| Quote ="Bullseye"he was in the room with 300 fans. '"
How many were from HKR?
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| Quote ="tigertot"How many were from HKR?'"
At least 200
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| Quote ="tigertot"How many were from HKR?'"
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| Quote ="Bullseye"500'"
surely they only travel in multiples of 1000.
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"surely they only travel in multiples of 1000.'"
Quite right, Bradford are obviously fudging the numbers to play down any earnings to the tax man. The real attendance of the event was 5719, 92 of which were not from HKR
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"Quite right, Bradford are obviously fudging the numbers to play down any earnings to the tax man. The real attendance of the event was 5719, 92 of which were not from HKR
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we have no earnings. Don't you read the wild speculation, we're totally skint
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| Quote ="af"Why no story then? Plenty of interesting info seemed to come out there.'" It's mentioned in the last few paragraphs [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sportbulls/sportbullsheadlines/4431373.Macca_pays_tribute_as_Lynch_signs_new_deal/here[/url
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| Quote ="redeverready"It's mentioned in the last few paragraphs [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sportbulls/sportbullsheadlines/4431373.Macca_pays_tribute_as_Lynch_signs_new_deal/here[/url'"
Barely a mention really. If the club wants to get this message out they need to beat Craven over the head with a copy of it tied around an iron bar.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Barely a mention really. If the club wants to get this message out they need to beat Craven over the head with a copy of it tied around an iron bar.'" I was surprised to see Craven TBH especially after he wasn't present at the one in January.
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| It'd be funny if it wasn't true.
I used to like the T&A read.
Even Bill "RU" Marshall wrote more balanced, informative and substantially more professional articles than Craven.
Better without him, IMHO. He adds nothing to the image or interest in the Bulls, or GGG, at all.
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