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| Quote ="Bulliac"The fly in the ointment with that scenario is that the RFL will only give a licence to their approved owners - without the licence to play in the competition it is pointless for anyone to buy the club.'"
Without Odsal as leverage, they can only fall back on the "fit & proper" rule - and if they binned anyone on that, I would expect a fairly expensive legal challenge. Fortunately, I would expect the RFL membership would ask the question about proper use of funds before it got that far. |
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Its not exactly something that either party would be shouting from the roof tops is it? '"
Really? That's EXACTLY what the RFL did yesterday with Swinton? |
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| Quote ="Scarey71"Really? That's EXACTLY what the RFL did yesterday with Swinton?'"
Their whole board had resigned, it was no real surprise. |
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"There was no stipulation that the new club had to play at Odsal.
You were in Special Measures long before Chalmers mentioned leaving Odsal.'"
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"That would have been around the time that Bradford were unable to pay 2 clubs their share of the gate receipts from cup matches which the RFL consequently paid from an advancement of central funding?'"
Another wrong statement |
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I've been reading the story about Swinton being in special measures and part of that story is saying that they are still allowed to sign players. Is it one rule for one and one rule for another?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Their whole board had resigned, it was no real surprise.'"
No they didn't, one stayed. And they still trumpeted it. Honestly, if we'd been in special measures for most of the season the more knuckly-dragging, mouth breathing shay-mates of yours would have been on here every three seconds to remind us along with advising on the sizing of fabric etc |
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| Quote ="Marvin Goolash"I've been reading the story about Swinton being in special measures and part of that story is saying that they are still allowed to sign players. Is it one rule for one and one rule for another?'"
It certainly appears that way |
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Quote ="bullinenemyland"Wrong'"
Which of my statements is wrong then? Certainly not the one about no stipulation of playing out of Odsal www.rugby-league.com/article/391 ... n-bradford
[iFollowing the announcement by the Administrator on January 3rd that Bradford Bulls (Northern) Ltd had ceased trading, the RFL immediately started a process to seek expressions of interest to set up a new professional club in Bradford.
The RFL is aware of the current interest surrounding this process. For clarity, below is the information that has been sent to all interested parties and the requirements set out by the RFL.
Information for Interested Parties - New Professional Club in Bradford
1. Background
The RFL is seeking expressions of interest to set up a new professional rugby league club in Bradford. The purpose of this note is to set out the information that any party interested in setting up such a club needs to provide to the RFL, the process for determining the successful applicant and the terms on which it is envisaged that any new company would be granted membership of the RFL.
In accordance with the RFL’s press release, it is currently the RFL’s intention that the new Company will be placed in the Championship in 2017 with a 12-point deduction and with the same central distributions as the 12th placed Club (i.e. £150k).
2. Information Required
To enable the RFL to consider any applications each interested party must provide the following by midday on Monday 9 January:
(a) Details of the business plan for the Club. This would ideally include a 3-year budget forecast and evidence of the working capital (proof of funds) to support such forecast;
(b) Details of the experience the relevant individuals have running rugby league clubs and/or other sporting club;
(c) Proposals relating to the recruitment of sufficient staff (particularly playing and coaching staff) in order to be ready to start the 2017 season on time and whether it is intended that the playing squad will be full or part time.
(d) Completed Fit and Proper Person Forms (copy appended) for each proposed Influential Person;
(e) Confirmation that the directors / shareholders of the new company are prepared to provide personal guarantees to support their assurances that the club will complete its fixtures in 2017, 2018 and 2019 and that if those fixtures are not completed then all central distributions paid or payable in that Season will be repayable by the club, and absent of repayment by the club are recoverable from the directors / shareholders according to the terms of their personal guarantees;
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
(g) Proposals relating to an Academy (NB subject to matching the same, all Category 1 Academies get £100k funding from the RFL); and
It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters and stakeholders and, as such, each interested party must also provide the following by close of play on Monday 9 January:
(a) Proposals relating to the individuals who bought season tickets for Bradford Bulls; and
(b) Proposals relating to the ‘RL debts’ being the parties subject to the Operational Rules (largely based in the Bradford area) that were owed money by Bradford Bulls at the time of the administration (it is envisaged that these will be circa £50k).
The above information must be provided in one document or in attachments to one email.
3. Process for Determining Successful Applicant
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention.
In line with the above, the RFL Board will base its assessment of each applicant on the information provided within their expression of interest. The RFL Board’s decision shall be final: there shall be no right of appeal.
The RFL Board’s decision will be conditional upon the selected party executing a Membership and Participation Agreement (documenting the above conditions and such other conditions as the RFL Board considers reasonable) within such time period as specified by the RFL Board.
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and the special measures was reported before the move from Odsal was mentioned. |
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Quote ="bullinenemyland"Wrong'"
Which of my statements is wrong then? Certainly not the one about no stipulation of playing out of Odsal www.rugby-league.com/article/391 ... n-bradford
[iFollowing the announcement by the Administrator on January 3rd that Bradford Bulls (Northern) Ltd had ceased trading, the RFL immediately started a process to seek expressions of interest to set up a new professional club in Bradford.
The RFL is aware of the current interest surrounding this process. For clarity, below is the information that has been sent to all interested parties and the requirements set out by the RFL.
Information for Interested Parties - New Professional Club in Bradford
1. Background
The RFL is seeking expressions of interest to set up a new professional rugby league club in Bradford. The purpose of this note is to set out the information that any party interested in setting up such a club needs to provide to the RFL, the process for determining the successful applicant and the terms on which it is envisaged that any new company would be granted membership of the RFL.
In accordance with the RFL’s press release, it is currently the RFL’s intention that the new Company will be placed in the Championship in 2017 with a 12-point deduction and with the same central distributions as the 12th placed Club (i.e. £150k).
2. Information Required
To enable the RFL to consider any applications each interested party must provide the following by midday on Monday 9 January:
(a) Details of the business plan for the Club. This would ideally include a 3-year budget forecast and evidence of the working capital (proof of funds) to support such forecast;
(b) Details of the experience the relevant individuals have running rugby league clubs and/or other sporting club;
(c) Proposals relating to the recruitment of sufficient staff (particularly playing and coaching staff) in order to be ready to start the 2017 season on time and whether it is intended that the playing squad will be full or part time.
(d) Completed Fit and Proper Person Forms (copy appended) for each proposed Influential Person;
(e) Confirmation that the directors / shareholders of the new company are prepared to provide personal guarantees to support their assurances that the club will complete its fixtures in 2017, 2018 and 2019 and that if those fixtures are not completed then all central distributions paid or payable in that Season will be repayable by the club, and absent of repayment by the club are recoverable from the directors / shareholders according to the terms of their personal guarantees;
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
(g) Proposals relating to an Academy (NB subject to matching the same, all Category 1 Academies get £100k funding from the RFL); and
It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters and stakeholders and, as such, each interested party must also provide the following by close of play on Monday 9 January:
(a) Proposals relating to the individuals who bought season tickets for Bradford Bulls; and
(b) Proposals relating to the ‘RL debts’ being the parties subject to the Operational Rules (largely based in the Bradford area) that were owed money by Bradford Bulls at the time of the administration (it is envisaged that these will be circa £50k).
The above information must be provided in one document or in attachments to one email.
3. Process for Determining Successful Applicant
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention.
In line with the above, the RFL Board will base its assessment of each applicant on the information provided within their expression of interest. The RFL Board’s decision shall be final: there shall be no right of appeal.
The RFL Board’s decision will be conditional upon the selected party executing a Membership and Participation Agreement (documenting the above conditions and such other conditions as the RFL Board considers reasonable) within such time period as specified by the RFL Board.
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and the special measures was reported before the move from Odsal was mentioned. | |
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Quote ="Mr Dog"Which of my statements is wrong then? Certainly not the one about no stipulation of playing out of Odsal www.rugby-league.com/article/391 ... n-bradford
[iFollowing the announcement by the Administrator on January 3rd that Bradford Bulls (Northern) Ltd had ceased trading, the RFL immediately started a process to seek expressions of interest to set up a new professional club in Bradford.
The RFL is aware of the current interest surrounding this process. For clarity, below is the information that has been sent to all interested parties and the requirements set out by the RFL.
Information for Interested Parties - New Professional Club in Bradford
1. Background
The RFL is seeking expressions of interest to set up a new professional rugby league club in Bradford. The purpose of this note is to set out the information that any party interested in setting up such a club needs to provide to the RFL, the process for determining the successful applicant and the terms on which it is envisaged that any new company would be granted membership of the RFL.
In accordance with the RFL’s press release, it is currently the RFL’s intention that the new Company will be placed in the Championship in 2017 with a 12-point deduction and with the same central distributions as the 12th placed Club (i.e. £150k).
2. Information Required
To enable the RFL to consider any applications each interested party must provide the following by midday on Monday 9 January:
(a) Details of the business plan for the Club. This would ideally include a 3-year budget forecast and evidence of the working capital (proof of funds) to support such forecast;
(b) Details of the experience the relevant individuals have running rugby league clubs and/or other sporting club;
(c) Proposals relating to the recruitment of sufficient staff (particularly playing and coaching staff) in order to be ready to start the 2017 season on time and whether it is intended that the playing squad will be full or part time.
(d) Completed Fit and Proper Person Forms (copy appended) for each proposed Influential Person;
(e) Confirmation that the directors / shareholders of the new company are prepared to provide personal guarantees to support their assurances that the club will complete its fixtures in 2017, 2018 and 2019 and that if those fixtures are not completed then all central distributions paid or payable in that Season will be repayable by the club, and absent of repayment by the club are recoverable from the directors / shareholders according to the terms of their personal guarantees;
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
(g) Proposals relating to an Academy (NB subject to matching the same, all Category 1 Academies get £100k funding from the RFL); and
It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters and stakeholders and, as such, each interested party must also provide the following by close of play on Monday 9 January:
(a) Proposals relating to the individuals who bought season tickets for Bradford Bulls; and
(b) Proposals relating to the ‘RL debts’ being the parties subject to the Operational Rules (largely based in the Bradford area) that were owed money by Bradford Bulls at the time of the administration (it is envisaged that these will be circa £50k).
The above information must be provided in one document or in attachments to one email.
3. Process for Determining Successful Applicant
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention.
In line with the above, the RFL Board will base its assessment of each applicant on the information provided within their expression of interest. The RFL Board’s decision shall be final: there shall be no right of appeal.
The RFL Board’s decision will be conditional upon the selected party executing a Membership and Participation Agreement (documenting the above conditions and such other conditions as the RFL Board considers reasonable) within such time period as specified by the RFL Board.
[/i
and the special measures was reported before the move from Odsal was mentioned.'"
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention
Odsal could of quite clearly have been included in the 2 points above. Bulls playing at Odsal would be an interest of the sport and its members Just because they haven't mentioned it don't mean it wasn't part of the RFL requirements. |
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Quote ="Mr Dog"Which of my statements is wrong then? Certainly not the one about no stipulation of playing out of Odsal www.rugby-league.com/article/391 ... n-bradford
[iFollowing the announcement by the Administrator on January 3rd that Bradford Bulls (Northern) Ltd had ceased trading, the RFL immediately started a process to seek expressions of interest to set up a new professional club in Bradford.
The RFL is aware of the current interest surrounding this process. For clarity, below is the information that has been sent to all interested parties and the requirements set out by the RFL.
Information for Interested Parties - New Professional Club in Bradford
1. Background
The RFL is seeking expressions of interest to set up a new professional rugby league club in Bradford. The purpose of this note is to set out the information that any party interested in setting up such a club needs to provide to the RFL, the process for determining the successful applicant and the terms on which it is envisaged that any new company would be granted membership of the RFL.
In accordance with the RFL’s press release, it is currently the RFL’s intention that the new Company will be placed in the Championship in 2017 with a 12-point deduction and with the same central distributions as the 12th placed Club (i.e. £150k).
2. Information Required
To enable the RFL to consider any applications each interested party must provide the following by midday on Monday 9 January:
(a) Details of the business plan for the Club. This would ideally include a 3-year budget forecast and evidence of the working capital (proof of funds) to support such forecast;
(b) Details of the experience the relevant individuals have running rugby league clubs and/or other sporting club;
(c) Proposals relating to the recruitment of sufficient staff (particularly playing and coaching staff) in order to be ready to start the 2017 season on time and whether it is intended that the playing squad will be full or part time.
(d) Completed Fit and Proper Person Forms (copy appended) for each proposed Influential Person;
(e) Confirmation that the directors / shareholders of the new company are prepared to provide personal guarantees to support their assurances that the club will complete its fixtures in 2017, 2018 and 2019 and that if those fixtures are not completed then all central distributions paid or payable in that Season will be repayable by the club, and absent of repayment by the club are recoverable from the directors / shareholders according to the terms of their personal guarantees;
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
(g) Proposals relating to an Academy (NB subject to matching the same, all Category 1 Academies get £100k funding from the RFL); and
It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters and stakeholders and, as such, each interested party must also provide the following by close of play on Monday 9 January:
(a) Proposals relating to the individuals who bought season tickets for Bradford Bulls; and
(b) Proposals relating to the ‘RL debts’ being the parties subject to the Operational Rules (largely based in the Bradford area) that were owed money by Bradford Bulls at the time of the administration (it is envisaged that these will be circa £50k).
The above information must be provided in one document or in attachments to one email.
3. Process for Determining Successful Applicant
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention.
In line with the above, the RFL Board will base its assessment of each applicant on the information provided within their expression of interest. The RFL Board’s decision shall be final: there shall be no right of appeal.
The RFL Board’s decision will be conditional upon the selected party executing a Membership and Participation Agreement (documenting the above conditions and such other conditions as the RFL Board considers reasonable) within such time period as specified by the RFL Board.
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and the special measures was reported before the move from Odsal was mentioned.'"
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention
Odsal could of quite clearly have been included in the 2 points above. Bulls playing at Odsal would be an interest of the sport and its members Just because they haven't mentioned it don't mean it wasn't part of the RFL requirements. | |
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| International Star | 1977 | No
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| Dec 2010 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Oct 2022 | LINK |
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Quote ="Mr Dog"Which of my statements is wrong then? Certainly not the one about no stipulation of playing out of Odsal www.rugby-league.com/article/391 ... n-bradford
[iFollowing the announcement by the Administrator on January 3rd that Bradford Bulls (Northern) Ltd had ceased trading, the RFL immediately started a process to seek expressions of interest to set up a new professional club in Bradford.
The RFL is aware of the current interest surrounding this process. For clarity, below is the information that has been sent to all interested parties and the requirements set out by the RFL.
Information for Interested Parties - New Professional Club in Bradford
1. Background
The RFL is seeking expressions of interest to set up a new professional rugby league club in Bradford. The purpose of this note is to set out the information that any party interested in setting up such a club needs to provide to the RFL, the process for determining the successful applicant and the terms on which it is envisaged that any new company would be granted membership of the RFL.
In accordance with the RFL’s press release, it is currently the RFL’s intention that the new Company will be placed in the Championship in 2017 with a 12-point deduction and with the same central distributions as the 12th placed Club (i.e. £150k).
2. Information Required
To enable the RFL to consider any applications each interested party must provide the following by midday on Monday 9 January:
(a) Details of the business plan for the Club. This would ideally include a 3-year budget forecast and evidence of the working capital (proof of funds) to support such forecast;
(b) Details of the experience the relevant individuals have running rugby league clubs and/or other sporting club;
(c) Proposals relating to the recruitment of sufficient staff (particularly playing and coaching staff) in order to be ready to start the 2017 season on time and whether it is intended that the playing squad will be full or part time.
(d) Completed Fit and Proper Person Forms (copy appended) for each proposed Influential Person;
(e) Confirmation that the directors / shareholders of the new company are prepared to provide personal guarantees to support their assurances that the club will complete its fixtures in 2017, 2018 and 2019 and that if those fixtures are not completed then all central distributions paid or payable in that Season will be repayable by the club, and absent of repayment by the club are recoverable from the directors / shareholders according to the terms of their personal guarantees;
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
(g) Proposals relating to an Academy (NB subject to matching the same, all Category 1 Academies get £100k funding from the RFL); and
It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters and stakeholders and, as such, each interested party must also provide the following by close of play on Monday 9 January:
(a) Proposals relating to the individuals who bought season tickets for Bradford Bulls; and
(b) Proposals relating to the ‘RL debts’ being the parties subject to the Operational Rules (largely based in the Bradford area) that were owed money by Bradford Bulls at the time of the administration (it is envisaged that these will be circa £50k).
The above information must be provided in one document or in attachments to one email.
3. Process for Determining Successful Applicant
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention.
In line with the above, the RFL Board will base its assessment of each applicant on the information provided within their expression of interest. The RFL Board’s decision shall be final: there shall be no right of appeal.
The RFL Board’s decision will be conditional upon the selected party executing a Membership and Participation Agreement (documenting the above conditions and such other conditions as the RFL Board considers reasonable) within such time period as specified by the RFL Board.
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and the special measures was reported before the move from Odsal was mentioned.'"
Grow up you petulant troll and concentrate on your own mess of a club instead of being obksessed with a superior club |
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[iFollowing the announcement by the Administrator on January 3rd that Bradford Bulls (Northern) Ltd had ceased trading, the RFL immediately started a process to seek expressions of interest to set up a new professional club in Bradford.
The RFL is aware of the current interest surrounding this process. For clarity, below is the information that has been sent to all interested parties and the requirements set out by the RFL.
Information for Interested Parties - New Professional Club in Bradford
1. Background
The RFL is seeking expressions of interest to set up a new professional rugby league club in Bradford. The purpose of this note is to set out the information that any party interested in setting up such a club needs to provide to the RFL, the process for determining the successful applicant and the terms on which it is envisaged that any new company would be granted membership of the RFL.
In accordance with the RFL’s press release, it is currently the RFL’s intention that the new Company will be placed in the Championship in 2017 with a 12-point deduction and with the same central distributions as the 12th placed Club (i.e. £150k).
2. Information Required
To enable the RFL to consider any applications each interested party must provide the following by midday on Monday 9 January:
(a) Details of the business plan for the Club. This would ideally include a 3-year budget forecast and evidence of the working capital (proof of funds) to support such forecast;
(b) Details of the experience the relevant individuals have running rugby league clubs and/or other sporting club;
(c) Proposals relating to the recruitment of sufficient staff (particularly playing and coaching staff) in order to be ready to start the 2017 season on time and whether it is intended that the playing squad will be full or part time.
(d) Completed Fit and Proper Person Forms (copy appended) for each proposed Influential Person;
(e) Confirmation that the directors / shareholders of the new company are prepared to provide personal guarantees to support their assurances that the club will complete its fixtures in 2017, 2018 and 2019 and that if those fixtures are not completed then all central distributions paid or payable in that Season will be repayable by the club, and absent of repayment by the club are recoverable from the directors / shareholders according to the terms of their personal guarantees;
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
(g) Proposals relating to an Academy (NB subject to matching the same, all Category 1 Academies get £100k funding from the RFL); and
It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters and stakeholders and, as such, each interested party must also provide the following by close of play on Monday 9 January:
(a) Proposals relating to the individuals who bought season tickets for Bradford Bulls; and
(b) Proposals relating to the ‘RL debts’ being the parties subject to the Operational Rules (largely based in the Bradford area) that were owed money by Bradford Bulls at the time of the administration (it is envisaged that these will be circa £50k).
The above information must be provided in one document or in attachments to one email.
3. Process for Determining Successful Applicant
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention.
In line with the above, the RFL Board will base its assessment of each applicant on the information provided within their expression of interest. The RFL Board’s decision shall be final: there shall be no right of appeal.
The RFL Board’s decision will be conditional upon the selected party executing a Membership and Participation Agreement (documenting the above conditions and such other conditions as the RFL Board considers reasonable) within such time period as specified by the RFL Board.
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Had a listen last night to an interview Mick Gledhill did with Ross Peltier. In it Mick said season tickets are up to 1200. That must incorporate some standing tickets as the number of seats sold does not equate to that. That is a really good total and I don’t know why the club isn’t making more of a big deal about numbers sold. It might inspire confidence in some others to go and buy.
I don’t get the Swinton special measures news. It said they haven’t yet submitted their 2020 budget. If that’s the case how can they possibly be allowed to sign players? Yet the latest T&A article says we are sending the RFL info DAILY and yet no signs of ours being lifted.
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Quote ="Mr Dog"Which of my statements is wrong then? Certainly not the one about no stipulation of playing out of Odsal www.rugby-league.com/article/391 ... n-bradford
[iFollowing the announcement by the Administrator on January 3rd that Bradford Bulls (Northern) Ltd had ceased trading, the RFL immediately started a process to seek expressions of interest to set up a new professional club in Bradford.
The RFL is aware of the current interest surrounding this process. For clarity, below is the information that has been sent to all interested parties and the requirements set out by the RFL.
Information for Interested Parties - New Professional Club in Bradford
1. Background
The RFL is seeking expressions of interest to set up a new professional rugby league club in Bradford. The purpose of this note is to set out the information that any party interested in setting up such a club needs to provide to the RFL, the process for determining the successful applicant and the terms on which it is envisaged that any new company would be granted membership of the RFL.
In accordance with the RFL’s press release, it is currently the RFL’s intention that the new Company will be placed in the Championship in 2017 with a 12-point deduction and with the same central distributions as the 12th placed Club (i.e. £150k).
2. Information Required
To enable the RFL to consider any applications each interested party must provide the following by midday on Monday 9 January:
(a) Details of the business plan for the Club. This would ideally include a 3-year budget forecast and evidence of the working capital (proof of funds) to support such forecast;
(b) Details of the experience the relevant individuals have running rugby league clubs and/or other sporting club;
(c) Proposals relating to the recruitment of sufficient staff (particularly playing and coaching staff) in order to be ready to start the 2017 season on time and whether it is intended that the playing squad will be full or part time.
(d) Completed Fit and Proper Person Forms (copy appended) for each proposed Influential Person;
(e) Confirmation that the directors / shareholders of the new company are prepared to provide personal guarantees to support their assurances that the club will complete its fixtures in 2017, 2018 and 2019 and that if those fixtures are not completed then all central distributions paid or payable in that Season will be repayable by the club, and absent of repayment by the club are recoverable from the directors / shareholders according to the terms of their personal guarantees;
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
(g) Proposals relating to an Academy (NB subject to matching the same, all Category 1 Academies get £100k funding from the RFL); and
It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters and stakeholders and, as such, each interested party must also provide the following by close of play on Monday 9 January:
(a) Proposals relating to the individuals who bought season tickets for Bradford Bulls; and
(b) Proposals relating to the ‘RL debts’ being the parties subject to the Operational Rules (largely based in the Bradford area) that were owed money by Bradford Bulls at the time of the administration (it is envisaged that these will be circa £50k).
The above information must be provided in one document or in attachments to one email.
3. Process for Determining Successful Applicant
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention.
In line with the above, the RFL Board will base its assessment of each applicant on the information provided within their expression of interest. The RFL Board’s decision shall be final: there shall be no right of appeal.
The RFL Board’s decision will be conditional upon the selected party executing a Membership and Participation Agreement (documenting the above conditions and such other conditions as the RFL Board considers reasonable) within such time period as specified by the RFL Board.
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and the special measures was reported before the move from Odsal was mentioned.'"
The bit about special measures... discussions about leaving Odsal have been going on long before special measures. It's obviously just coincidence that when we decide to leave Odsal... boom club is in special measures.
Tell me any other club that says its saving itself over £500k in expenditures and the governing body thinks that's a bad thing???
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Quote ="Mr Dog"Which of my statements is wrong then? Certainly not the one about no stipulation of playing out of Odsal www.rugby-league.com/article/391 ... n-bradford
[iFollowing the announcement by the Administrator on January 3rd that Bradford Bulls (Northern) Ltd had ceased trading, the RFL immediately started a process to seek expressions of interest to set up a new professional club in Bradford.
The RFL is aware of the current interest surrounding this process. For clarity, below is the information that has been sent to all interested parties and the requirements set out by the RFL.
Information for Interested Parties - New Professional Club in Bradford
1. Background
The RFL is seeking expressions of interest to set up a new professional rugby league club in Bradford. The purpose of this note is to set out the information that any party interested in setting up such a club needs to provide to the RFL, the process for determining the successful applicant and the terms on which it is envisaged that any new company would be granted membership of the RFL.
In accordance with the RFL’s press release, it is currently the RFL’s intention that the new Company will be placed in the Championship in 2017 with a 12-point deduction and with the same central distributions as the 12th placed Club (i.e. £150k).
2. Information Required
To enable the RFL to consider any applications each interested party must provide the following by midday on Monday 9 January:
(a) Details of the business plan for the Club. This would ideally include a 3-year budget forecast and evidence of the working capital (proof of funds) to support such forecast;
(b) Details of the experience the relevant individuals have running rugby league clubs and/or other sporting club;
(c) Proposals relating to the recruitment of sufficient staff (particularly playing and coaching staff) in order to be ready to start the 2017 season on time and whether it is intended that the playing squad will be full or part time.
(d) Completed Fit and Proper Person Forms (copy appended) for each proposed Influential Person;
(e) Confirmation that the directors / shareholders of the new company are prepared to provide personal guarantees to support their assurances that the club will complete its fixtures in 2017, 2018 and 2019 and that if those fixtures are not completed then all central distributions paid or payable in that Season will be repayable by the club, and absent of repayment by the club are recoverable from the directors / shareholders according to the terms of their personal guarantees;
(f) Any further assurances that are proposed regarding the future survival of the new Club (including, for example, the provision of a financial bond repayable to the Club over the next 3 years);
(g) Proposals relating to an Academy (NB subject to matching the same, all Category 1 Academies get £100k funding from the RFL); and
It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters and stakeholders and, as such, each interested party must also provide the following by close of play on Monday 9 January:
(a) Proposals relating to the individuals who bought season tickets for Bradford Bulls; and
(b) Proposals relating to the ‘RL debts’ being the parties subject to the Operational Rules (largely based in the Bradford area) that were owed money by Bradford Bulls at the time of the administration (it is envisaged that these will be circa £50k).
The above information must be provided in one document or in attachments to one email.
3. Process for Determining Successful Applicant
The RFL Board will consider the bids received and determine which (if any) bid it will accept. The Board will have discretion in making such decision and will take into account all factors it considers appropriate including (but not limited to) the following:
The interests of the sport (including its reputation and the need to promote the game of rugby league generally);
The interests of RFL members and/or participating clubs in the RFL’s competitions;
The integrity and continuity of competitions;
The interests of players and other Persons subject to the Operational Rules;
The financial resource it is proposed is committed by the proposed owners; and
Any other relevant matters brought to the Board’s attention.
In line with the above, the RFL Board will base its assessment of each applicant on the information provided within their expression of interest. The RFL Board’s decision shall be final: there shall be no right of appeal.
The RFL Board’s decision will be conditional upon the selected party executing a Membership and Participation Agreement (documenting the above conditions and such other conditions as the RFL Board considers reasonable) within such time period as specified by the RFL Board.
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and the special measures was reported before the move from Odsal was mentioned.'"
The bit about special measures... discussions about leaving Odsal have been going on long before special measures. It's obviously just coincidence that when we decide to leave Odsal... boom club is in special measures.
Tell me any other club that says its saving itself over £500k in expenditures and the governing body thinks that's a bad thing???
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Hey Mr Dog! How do you explain that the RFL called Chalmers and asked him to take the club on BEFORE this statement came out.
That being the case you can post it as many times as you like. It means nothing and was dressing for the world to make it look like any process was open and fair. Chalmers was told the club was his in December. This was 5th Jan. Keep up!
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Especially if the rumours on the other thread are true. People in glass houses and all that. |
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Indeed mate. I know I was petulant in the reply but I am getting narked off with idiots from down the road! |
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Get the tin hats out fellas we are about to be bombarded and to be honest we cant really have any complaints.
News breaking that one of our players has terminated his own contract due to the club not paying any pensions contributions for him and are therefore in breach of said contract.
I saw Jon Magrin tweet something about this the other day but who knows if others are effected as well.
We really are a f'ing joke. No doubt AC will continue to bury his head in the sand.
How much more can we take?
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I think that's me done with RL.
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La la la la I can't hear you. I'm not listening this isn't happening.
So league predictions for 2020? I think we can get 5th and hope to surprise people in the playoffs.
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"La la la la I can't hear you. I'm not listening this isn't happening.
So league predictions for 2020? I think we can get 5th and hope to surprise people in the playoffs.'"
https://www.totalrl.com/bradford-player ... n-dispute/
think you lot need to be bang that door down AC needs to come clean now |
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"La la la la I can't hear you. I'm not listening this isn't happening.
So league predictions for 2020? I think we can get 5th and hope to surprise people in the playoffs.'"
https://www.totalrl.com/bradford-player ... n-dispute/
think you lot need to be bang that door down AC needs to come clean now | |
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think you lot need to be bang that door down AC needs to come clean now'"
Well if it is what it looks like, that's it for me and RL. At least I have some element of control over the disappointments in my life then. |
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If there is any truth whatsoever in these rumours then never have so many been let down by so few. What price loyalty eh.
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Ugh. This sounds bad doesn’t it. I can’t see there being any valid excuse/reason for what this sounds like. As some others have said, I will definitely be done with RL if this all plays out like i’m now expecting.
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This game is in a right state. Just look at the crowd at Wigan tonight. It's to get in the grand final and no one from wigan can be d to turn up.
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Still think it's just the RFL out to get us? We're starting to get a clearer picture of why we're still in special measures.
This isn't the sort of thing that will only affect one player, either. If the club didn't pay over Magrin's pension contributions then they didn't pay over [ianyone's[/i contributions.
If the club issue a statement at all (I'm not holding my breath) then I expect them to say it was just an administration/clerical error or some rubbish like that. Even if that is true, it's such a huge error that it proves to me that those in charge of running the club aren't fit to do so. It's just such a basic mistake to make, if they can't get something as straightforward as this right then god knows what else they're doing wrong.
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