You two speaking in tongues again?

I will not be going to Huddersfield. I will put my share straight into the collection bucket on Friday. As far as i'm concerned we don't want to be beholden to any other club just to enable their fans to feel smug and superior.

I'm sure we'll all manage to somehow soldier on without your presence your Lordship.

You must be running out of clubs to whom you don't wish to feel any obligation by now.

Good luck to the genuine Bradford fans on here whatever happens.

I can't speak for TT but I'm definately not an Accountant and as such have no linguistic knowledge of it! Now the the other Accountacy language which I have a limited understanding of and I'm sure TT has a smattering of is Double Speak!

Accountants are the scum of the earth, which is why we all employ them in Ilkley to do our dirty work.

Really??







What happened to lawyers? Or did accountants get docked 6 points and relegated into scum position for going into admin?

Either way, great news.

We are all sticking with our club and fighting its corner, and will continue to do so. We have the support of the vast majority of decent fans but hey there's freedom of speech for toilets too. BUT we will take no lessons from a self-confessed fair-weather gloryhunter like you who deserted your own club at its hour of need, and has now jumped back on the bandwagon when someone else has sorted out the mess.

Joint leaders, which is why we all employ them in Ilkley to do our dirty work. Except that CC chap, he's even beneath our contempt.

Being a fully paid-up member of the scum of the earth, just thought I'd let you know I led a large party of my fellow scum up the road your mansion and we just stormed the gates and burned it down. We now have a large flag pronouncing "Liberty, Equality, Accountancy" flying above where the estate stables used to be.

Oh, and I peed in your swimming pool.

Now, just need to find that knitting wool...

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I am sure if there is any bloodshed our legal friends will send an ambulance?

Ok I've changed the thread title so shall we calm it down a notch?

you werent going to go anyway.

Don't think the facts fit your statement. If you say the attendance of the Bulls-Giants game less the average attendance of games against Dragons and Broncos gives you a good indication of how many away fans turn up to games you find:-

Hudds fans at Odsal - 2010 2,739, 2011 1,535
Bradford fans at Galpharm - 2010 4,458, 2011 4,270

At £20 per head that's an extra £90k Bradford have contributed to you than you contributed to us. I look forward to your retraction! Given you have been a much more succesful team in those 2 years than we have - not a good indicator is it?

And chase after it to the hospital.

Nice thread title edit

Just trying to spread the love....

Lol- if you are going to throw facts and figures about -at least check that the numbers are even slightly correct- the away stand at the John smith stadium holds 4054- and full coumns of each side of the stand are not used as they are covered by advertising banners. That away stand has nowhere been near full let alone overflowing.
Bulls have not brought anywhere near the numbers you suggest.
But then we know that those at the bulls make up attendances based on people who are obviously only there in "spirit". Were those spirits there at the John smith stadium too?????
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I look forward to your "retraction" priceless.

Ok - I'll provide my data - source RFL website

2010
at Hudds: v Dragons - 5,296, v London 5,336 - average 5,316, v Bulls 9,774 - difference 4,458
at Bulls: v Dragons - 6,217, v London 7,853 - average 7,053, v Hudds 8,156 - difference 1,103
2011
at Hudds: v Dragons - 5,132, v London 5,220 - average 5,176, v Bulls 9,466 - difference 4,290
at Bulls: v Dragons - 12,670, v London 12,354 - average 12,512, v Hudds 14,047 - difference 1,535

These are official attendances so the people there in 'spirit' are there for all games so a like for like comparison. Do I think there was 12,670 at Odsal for a Dragons game that was on Sky - no, but the club rightly or wrongly changed how they acknowledged a crowd based on people who didn't go to a game but had bought a season ticket. So, it would seem to be a reasonable assesment that the extra over the average crowd for the 2 worst away supported teams in the league is primairily made up of away supporters - these figures, unlike some financial ones presented by my club do not lie! Accept my 1 retraction, my initial posting significantly overstated the number of Hudds fans at Odsal in 2010 - the problem of multi tasking!!!!

What a stupid formula

Why not just ask people at the stadium how many Bulls fans were in attendance? All your spurious figures show your desperation.

4K plus.

You obviously did not attend those games. 1200 -1400 would be top end.

In your daft and selective use of figures you include a game played at the Shay that was televised.







You appear incapable of appreciate that more home fans and neutrals will attend a 'derby game' etc.

As for £20 per game.........wake up! There are many concessions and children (under 12 go free) attending the game. The average take per head will be £10 0r £11.

So your £90K is much nearer £13-15K. Other than that I am sure you are spot on.

See above.

Attended both games actually.

So you state there was not circa 4,000 Bulls supporters there - OK no proof, but what does the information say:-

1. Many more extra people attended at Galpharm than at Odsal
2. That the Bulls attract more walk in extra Hudds or neutral supporters than Hudds at Bulls.

It is very likely a high proportion of the extra over fans are away supporters - agree?

Go back to the comment I was challenging - that Hudds took more supporters to Odsal than we did to Galpharm in last couple of years - do you still support that? If yes - don't want you on a jury if I'm the accused, based on convicting on a 'beyond reasonable doubt' basis

I could not care less about your squabble. Your 'formula' is nonsensical. If it leads to the conclusion that there were 4K+ bulls fans in attendance it is laughable.There were around 1200-1500 bulls fans at last 2 games at the galpharm. The ticket income per supporter will be nearer to £10 than £20. HTH

Anecdotal evidence v data based evidence - so there were only 6 Huddersfield supporters at Odsal - I know I was at both games! And my assesment on spend wasn't based on ticket but based on total - extra bar, food etc. etc.
No squabble pal, but just trying to highlight that the basic premise (more Hudds supporters at odsal than Bulls at Galpharm can't be supported)

Hi mate

not sure the figures can be so easily compared as they are not like for like.

For example in 2011 you are comparing a game on a Sunday afternoon (15:00) in March played at Galpharm with a game on a Saturday night (19:15) in July played in Halifax and on Sky.

Agree - but differences in both - we played Dragons in 2011 on Saturday on Sky and in 2010 in August on a Sunday - hence accept my basis is not fool proof - but does provide data to indicate an estimate which is better than saying mine is bigger than yours