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| Well we're due another artists impression.
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| The Caddick rumour was doing the rounds again at the game. Already has the contract for the park & ride, missed out on buying the golf course
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| I'd be interested to see what they had planned for 15M as that would soon be swallowed up quite literally by a hole in the ground. But we have to start somewhere and it would be progress. I guess the dream would be to do gradual upgrades ala Headingly but that is easier said than done at a site such as Odsal
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'd be interested to see what they had planned for 15M as that would soon be swallowed up quite literally by a hole in the ground. But we have to start somewhere and it would be progress. I guess the dream would be to do gradual upgrades ala Headingly but that is easier said than done at a site such as Odsal'" if that figure was accurate I think you could do a fair bit with 15mil I’m sure a few year ago roofing the terracing was priced up at 500k in the Marc green era you could upgrade floodlights a big screen reduce the capacity which is something that Hirst really wants to do
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| Quote ="Pyrah123"if that figure was accurate I think you could do a fair bit with 15mil I’m sure a few year ago roofing the terracing was priced up at 500k in the Marc green era you could upgrade floodlights a big screen reduce the capacity which is something that Hirst really wants to do'"
Perhaps literally a roof for 0.5 million but the terracing needs more than that doing.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Perhaps literally a roof for 0.5 million but the terracing needs more than that doing.'" as I say reducing the capacity would likely be the first thing on the list then look at minimum standards to maximise img points ie upgraded floodlights big screen, I’d personally look at doing something with touchdown bar and upgrade hospitality anything beyond that add things that would help bring in income
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| Cost of construction has also rocketed since Marc Green era and as we found out, he wasn’t great with numbers! Anyway, if the rumour is 15 million the true figure is probably 5 so I won’t be dreaming of a revamped Odsal anytime soon.
We’ve heard it all before and too many times, a clean seat would be a start as things stand.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Cost of construction has also rocketed since Marc Green era and as we found out, he wasn’t great with numbers! Anyway, if the rumour is 15 million the true figure is probably 5 so I won’t be dreaming of a revamped Odsal anytime soon.
We’ve heard it all before and too many times, a clean seat would be a start as things stand.'"
To be honest I don’t think it can be anything but a positive that we are trying to get the lease back
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| Quote ="Pyrah123"To be honest I don’t think it can be anything but a positive that we are trying to get the lease back'"
I would cautiously agree. But Odsal is going to need significant investment and has much greater construction challenges compared to somewhere like Belle Vue or Post Office RD.
Hopefully everyone involved has their eyes wide open and are not believing we can build a stand over the main terracing for 500k. It sounds like Hirst has some ideas, perhaps those will come with some compromises and the land utilised in other schemes to raise the capital to improve our own facilities.
As I say, I am interested to see what they have planned, but we've been let down too many times for me to believe it is finally happening this time.
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| I think owning the lease would definitely be a positive. At the moment I do believe the stock cars are the primary tenants which is why the pitch is so small and they leave it in the state it is.
If we're the lease holders we can make the pitch bigger and put in some ground rules for them keeping it as tidy as can be for starters.
The big question for me is who is paying this supposed £15million. I think some are getting ahead of themselves. Loved to be proved wrong but we've been here so many times it just seems fantasy stuff at the moment.
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| I’d love to know where this £15M has come from?
Pure fantasy island.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"I’d love to know where this £15M has come from?
Pure fantasy island.'"
Probably and what is more depressing is that 15M would barely scratch the surface of what it would cost to make any sizeable changes at Odsal. ⁸
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| As a minimum, would it get us a tick in the “primacy of tenure” img box? Or do we have that already?
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| Also, if you want a laugh, look at the Halifax site, the thread on whether Halifax has a plan for Img as the last couple of pages is complaining about our score and guessing our finances.
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| They do seem quite obsessed by us.
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| Only positive that can come out of IMG scores for them is if Bradford miss out on a SL spot, I feel a bit sorry for them in all honesty.
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| Typical poo-stirring by usual suspect on fax site tbf
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| Quote ="Highlander"As a minimum, would it get us a tick in the “primacy of tenure” img box? Or do we have that already?'"
Bradford already tick that box.
I think realistically the only option to the club if staying at Odsal for the foreseeable is the main plan is to close the Rooley Avenue terracing and sell that part of the stadium off for retail and leisure with a smaller stand built in its place.
This would improve facilities and also lower the capacity to around 16,000 improving the clubs IMG stadium points.
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| Not sure how appealing that bit of land would be to anyone Mick when there's already plenty of vacant retail units around that wouldn't require a complex construction plan as would be the case on the steep slopes of that end.
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| I'll never understand the desperation of some fax fans to see us go bust. I never want to see them or anyone else go bust.
The spin they put on, to create a narrative that suits their agenda.
Fax sign a player we might have been interested in. "it's because Bulls couldn't match Faxs finance, Bulls are skint"
We have a decent season "because Bradford were one of the highest spenders in the league, it's unsustainable and they're going bust"
Followed by "I have zero sympathy" bla bla bla.
I don't think Fax are exactly in great shape and maybe they should be more concerned about themselves than us.
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| When they stop being bothered about us is the time to worry. I'd like to get back to the situation when Leeds fans carried on like this instead of pitying us and saying how nice it would be to have a proper derby game back. Could be a long wait since I think that only getting a brand new ground will see us in Super League. Keep buying the Euro Millions tickets.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"When they stop being bothered about us is the time to worry. I'd like to get back to the situation when Leeds fans carried on like this instead of pitying us and saying how nice it would be to have a proper derby game back. Could be a long wait since I think that only getting a brand new ground will see us in Super League. Keep buying the Euro Millions tickets.'"
I'm an investor in a Vietnamese sulphur oxide mine. My girlfriend put me on to it when my mother died.
She's so thoughtful. We've never met in person but was happy to accept the transfer from me for the £175000 from the sale of my mum's house and make the arrangements because she lives round the corner in Mai Chau. It's an unbelievably good investment after only 1 year my shares are worth 2 293 074 vietnamese dong!!! The purchase of the Bulls and Odsal is all part of my 5 year plan!
Thanks
Keith x
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| £15m could go a long way to creating a decent sized ground which would meet our needs. Nothing flashy but a big improvement none the less...
- Install a new 3G playing surface (can be hired all year round generating an income; can also be used for training and would free up need to pay/maintain Tong)
- Build a new covered terraced stand over top of existing popular terrace, install hospitality suite at top which is needed for IMG.
- Mothball Rooley Lane Terrace to reduce capacity
- Seek long term investment to refurbish Southbank Stand (maybe to include new open terrace)
As a comparison, Wakefield's new stand cost £6m and seats 2,500 plus hospitality. We would need stood capacity of 5,000 minimum.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I'm an investor in a Vietnamese sulphur oxide mine. My girlfriend put me on to it when my mother died.
She's so thoughtful. We've never met in person but was happy to accept the transfer from me for the £175000 from the sale of my mum's house and make the arrangements because she lives round the corner in Mai Chau. It's an unbelievably good investment after only 1 year my shares are worth 2 293 074 vietnamese dong!!! The purchase of the Bulls and Odsal is all part of my 5 year plan!
You've given the game away at last MBBB, we often wondered who was the "secret" financial advisor to Caisley during his tenure at the Bulls.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"£15m could go a long way to creating a decent sized ground which would meet our needs. Nothing flashy but a big improvement none the less...
- Install a new 3G playing surface (can be hired all year round generating an income; can also be used for training and would free up need to pay/maintain Tong)
- Build a new covered terraced stand over top of existing popular terrace, install hospitality suite at top which is needed for IMG.
- Mothball Rooley Lane Terrace to reduce capacity
- Seek long term investment to refurbish Southbank Stand (maybe to include new open terrace)
As a comparison, Wakefield's new stand cost £6m and seats 2,500 plus hospitality. We would need stood capacity of 5,000 minimum.'"
Where has this 15 million number come from? I've not seen anything to suggest we have ownership with that sort of disposable income so it would need to be raised from some other means.
I do think Wakefield is an interesting comparison though. Was the 6 million figure the muted cost before construction started as the figure more often goes up as problems are found! And I can I imagine there would be plenty of unforeseen extra costs at a site such as Odsal!
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