Somebody on our board said they thought somebody should only be considered world class if they could get in a world 17. Again it would be a matter of opinion on who would make it but it sounds fair enough.

Going off that Englands world class players imo would be Graham, Peacock, Ellis and Burgess which in my mind sound about right.

Anyway back to this weeks game........................

In popular worldwide sports like football and dare I say it, Rugby Union, then fair enough, but in Rugby League that is a nonsense suggestion. Not enough people play it in order for there to be so many "world class" players.

Fair comment.

I'd say theres probably about 25 guys that play rugby league who deserve the world class tag in truth.

There probably only 2 or 3 in the whole of superleague.

Thats what i was going to say i consider 'world class' to be the best player in the world in that position

2-3 at a push i say, some players like Eastmond and S Tompkins have the potential to get to that level i think though

phelps is expected to be back with roberts reverting back to wing

I know, 2 others told me and its on the SL website.

Lets just hope its a cracker..theres been nothing better than a wiganvbradford game in the SL era..hope both set of fans come out in force.

I'm bizarrely feeling more confident the more I read. Wigan are setting themselves up for a fall with their over confidence. Noone is giving us a hope. Its reminding me of Saints away last year.
Come on you Bulls.

Not arrogance.

We currently have the best defence in the league and the best attack. Bradfords defence has been quite poor at times and we are looking really good.

I honestly can't see past a Wigan win, maybe I will be wrong, but it's just my opinion.

Besides the rest of the tosh on this thread, that really stands out as a stupid comment.

Because....?

At the end of the day though what I say, what you say, whatever any Wigan or Bradford fan says will have zero bearing on the game because we won't be on the field.

You can call the Wigan fans complacent or arrogant but unless the players go into the game in the same frame of mind(which I doubt they will as Maguire must know how good players like Orford, Menzies and Kearney are) it won't effect our preformence in the slightest.

Didn't know you'd signed Noone, he was playing for Barrow last I heard.

Because Lockers is a much better player!

You been drinking mate?

In terms of what?

Langley is currently our longest serving player, he's a great influence to all our young players, plays 80 minutes every week and never less than 100% effort. He was far from his best last year, but with his shoulder op over and done with he looks back at his best.

Two different types of player imo, O'Loughlin has an eye for the try himself, can be creative but also gets through alot of work in defence. Langley is a workhorse who will never take a step backwards when driving the ball in, never stops tackling and can put in some great hits. I'm sure O'Loughlin's try & try assist stats will be alo more than Langley, but I would be willing to bet at the end of this season, Langley has more clean breaks, more tackles and more mpc.

I wouldn't have O'Loughlin anywhere near the Bradford team. He is slow, lacks creativity and is a penalty machine.

Good individual defender, but we have plenty of those.

I'm loving this thread. If the Wigan team think the same as the fans then it will be Bradford by 30.

Lacks creativity



The most creative loose forward in superleague in 2009 was.............Sean O'Loughlin.

The most creative loose forward in superleague so far in 2010 is.........Sean O'Loughlin.

He's our best player and the best loose forward in superleague along with Kevin Sinfield(another top player that people mock) and thats why every GB/England coach has picked one if not both of those in his side over the past 4 or 5 years.

Us fans may be a little over confidante, but there's no way the players will be. Anybody who's ever heard Shaun Wane or Michael McGuire speak will know that this Wigan side won't underestimate any opposition while their in control.

Then that surely all depends on your definition of World Class. If only 1 person played the game then he would, by definition, be World Class as he'd be the best (and worst!

) playing the sport. Fewer players shouldn't impact on your definition of World Class. However, having had this debate on the Leeds board re: Sinfield, I'm in total agreement that it's a term bandied about far too often and far too easily.

I suggested the 'Wally Lewis' test (as I called it) as a good marker of true world class. Few people, if any, would argue that Lewis wasn't world class. Maybe only the players who engender this 'universal acclaim' should be considered worthy of the term. It's as good a system as any!

IMO

World Class - A Player who makes a consistent impact at the highest level of the sport.

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Same noises if you play your best Rugby League Football in February and March you won't make the Grand Final. Leeds and Saints are only four and two points respectively behind you and are winning games without setting the world alight.

It's all about timing you can peak too soon. Or so my ex. wife tells me.

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