It's going to live forever.

It bores the hell out of me, I reckon it does quite a few others to. Sadness if ive ever seen it.

Counter to that, due to the paucity of RL coverage in the media, this is the one place where you can read informed and sustained discussion of the Bulls (in and amongst

). And both FA and ME contribute to that, even though there is some repitition on occasions.

Points scoring excersise on both parties and the need to have the last word.

The way it comes across to me is both of them are more interested finding out 'who's dads harder than the other' or 'who's got the biggest willy'. One has a dig, then the other and vice versa, everyday it seems. They are like my two infant children at times.

TBF if there's one person who appoints themself to attempt to have the last word on anything, that would be you. As here. Except you seem to have this notion that it's OK for [iyou[/i to do it, but not for anyone else.

Even for you, considering a man with 29 Test caps for New Zealand over a 9 year international career not "top class" is pretty barking.


Well, you SAY this is what you suppose, and so I point to this as more evidence that you must be barking.


Dear eddie - calling to the gallery for moral support. Your need for approval is touching indeed.



But the only "stupid" opinion remains that the Bulls do not make top class signings. Which would be your stupid opinion btw.

TBF it has not happened for a while as far as I am concerned. I have generally tried to ignore what he has had to say. However, when you see on this thread that three different people have made a similar point yet he choose to generally ignore the other two then you can see where his obsession lies. (He describes it as a call for moral support)

The biggest problem I have is not responding to someone who continually just makes things up in order to try and formulate an argument.

However, I see he has shifted his attention now to RER. Good luck to him.

TBH, FA can have the last word if he wishes. No doubt he will look to this as "not being able to formulate an argument". I don't really care what the clown thinks TBH.

Point well and truly proven.

Menzies was, Bird would have been, Wing certainly will be. Buderus was for Leeds as was Brent Webb, Hodgson (Brett) was for Huddersfield, Puletua was for Saints as was Gidley and, further back, Lyon. There has to be a realism of who you can bring to these shores from overseas whilst in their prime.



Not a massive amount but sadly most of the real quality will stay in the NRL.



Of course, but it is let down a bit by his age. Imagine the same guy for us in his prime!




Several extremely good for me. One world class player is eyecatching but putting the likes of Lockyer in the Salford side would not make them contenders overnight. It is striking the right balance that is important IMO.

It would be great though, like when Wally Lewis played for Wakey in the 80's. My memory is as sharp as a Paul Deacon side step but I can still remember the king's debut versus Hull.

Agreed, you need realism in who is available and affordable. So you would agree that the Bulls have done all they can to sign the best quality players available to them this season? They are still in the market obviously.



See above.




When he was in his prime we had players of a similar quality.




I agree, that's why I'm not so unhappy about having Menzies, Lynch, Burgess, etc. Hall already sorted for next year, some excellent young players coming through and already making their mark, and some pretty decent squad players.
A good balance you would agree?

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No-one's going to believe that for a second. You get so wound up, the space around your posts turns a shade of puce.


See them pointy things on the end of your hand? Just don't press any buttons on your keyboard. Unless you have a specific form of OCD, it's easy.


"mystic eddie in personal abuse shock"



Your weary MO is boring. I am not "having the last word" but "responding" to posts you, or anyone else I reply to, has/have made. That is what a discussion forum is for. I don't give a flying one whether you or anyone wants to weirdly claim this is me "wanting to have the last word" or not, but apart from the mods nobody has a right to decree that their last pearls of wisdom were the last word on the subject, and I don't understand why you're so obsessed with the "last word" argument that you invariably trot out. [/size

In my opinion you'd be better off trying to support your weird contention that the Bulls don't make top class signings, which is what the whole point of the thread (and certainly what I posted) is about, rather than taking everything so bloody personally every time I post and getting on your tiresome high horse, but whatever the reason, I reckon the Bull's long record of such signings, which continues, is unassailable.

If you are really convinced that these people are second rate players then as I've tried to make clear I accept, indeed defend, your right to hold barking views, but if you unjustifiably (IMHO) disparage the Bulls (as you often do) on the Bulls forum, dn't think you've got free rein to do so unopposed.

It doesn't matter whether they are at their physical and playing peak, or not, I really can't see how anyone can dispute that:

[listMorrison was a top class signing. (For reasons I have set out, which you don't comment on)

Newton was a top class signing. (You have ignored his case)

Menzies was a top class signing. (Does it really even justify any debate???)

All the players I have listed were top class signings.

Hall for next season is a top class signing.[/list:u

They all (indisputably) possess your latest stated attribute of "real quality". And that's my final word on the subject (since it is such an important issue for some to know this) so anyone who wants to have "the last word" can attempt to do so anywhere beyond this point.

I think we are making steps in the right direction but I think we will have to wait until the recruitment for 2010 is complete before we can be too sure. We have a good blend of youth and experience in the squad but we have no real balance in the side with the forwards beings much superior to the backs IMO.

Hopefully this will be adressed though and I have no doubt that it is.

Despite what some wind up merchants who cannot read claim elsewhere, I have not commented on any players being second rate whatsoever, but rather point out that they are not as good as is being made out. Whether that case is to be debated, it is merely an opinion rather than being completely made up in order to suit an argument.

We have made some excellent signings in the past, just as we have made a few turkeys too. It happens, but learning from the mistakes is what matters to me.

I'm having the last word.

No you're not

And the Bulls are going to learn how to fly, high



(Although maybe not this year)

Some of the best signings of the SL era by the Bulls were not "top signings" and some of the worst were!
Most are up for debate though!
the following would probably be categorised as "surprisingly good signigs that nobody really made a fuss about when they were made"
Matt Calland
Mike Forshaw
Paul Anderson
Lee Radford
Shontayne Hape
Mick Withers
Andy Lynch
Scott Naylor
Ben HArris
James evans
Ian henderson
Marcus ST Hillaire

the following would be "thought they would be stars and ended up being p**s poor":
Paul Cook
Shaun Edwards
Nick Zisti
Justin Brooker
David Solomona
Nathan McAvoy (first time)
Tupou

These would be "why did we sign him, he's c r a p and we know it.....(then were proved right"
Abi Ekoku
Carlos Hassan
Andy Ireland
Nathan mcavoy (2nd time around)
Ben jeffries
Michael PLatt

these would be " signed as stars and walked the walk":

Greame Bradley
Stuart Spruce
Jimmy Lowes
Vaikona
Les
menzies
Robbie
Henry
joe Vagana


just some thoughts!!

Final word:
Jeffries can no way be described as performing crap, he has had some outstanding games, usually while not partnering a numpty.
Bradley was not a star when he arrived, he had had a very disappointing spell at Cas before hand.

Last word: zucchini


(in my crappy primary dictionary anyway!)

Platt? Joking aren't we? He hasn't proven anything to me. Accept hes not worthy of playing in a super league team, because in my opinion hes $hit.

Think you need to read the post again mate.

It must be an American one. They are courgettes FFS.

The end.

Solomona hasn't been pis4 poor to be fair, he's always added extra creativity and made the ball more lively.

Bit harsh, presume you haven't been able to get to many games this year. Ben Jeffries surely can't be labelled as a crap signing? He can be a little hot and cold but I think so far this year he has been more hot than cold.