yeah I misread what he posted but I think i have answered that now. Its obvious If liquidated bradford bulls no longer exists so the newco should start again. I suppose demoted is the wrong wording because there will be no team to demote



Flood????

So was there club votes to see if Wakefield and Celtic were allowed to remain in SL?

We weren't liquidated. We went into admin and were bought when in admin. We received the penalty for going into admin (which I note you haven't received yet) but the club never ceased to exist. A new owner simply took over from the old owner, sorted out by the administrator. In between, he lowered the outgoings of the club by dispensing of staff and some expensive players. You are hanging onto all of your players. If you liquidate, you cease to exist, and so I presume the clubs will decide whether to admit your fresh application for a new club.

For me, the difference is a bit technical and I would vote to keep you in.

(edited to make sense. note to self: don't post when drunk).

I think Cru for sure.

Not so. After the cru and wakey embarrassments RFL/SL changed the rules and all team signed up to it......punishment is 'unlimited'.

Quote ="Slugger McBatt"We weren't liquidated. We went into admin and were bought when in admin. We received the penalty for going into admin (which I note you haven't received yet) but the club never seemed to exist. A new owner simply took over from the old owner, sorted out by the administrator. In between, he lowered the outgoings of the club by dispensing of staff and some expensive players. I note that you are hanging onto all of your players. If you liquidate, you seek to exist, and so I presume the clubs will decide whether to admit your fresh application for a new club. For me, the difference is a bit technical and I would vote to keep you in.'" Neither have Bradford yet, but this report seems to suggest Bradford have forfeited membership of SL from entering administration, and even if Liquidation is avoided it would be for the RFL in consultation with other SL clubs.(I thinking the consultation as a vote here) www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... over-bulls I was just wondering.

Quote ="Slugger McBatt"We weren't liquidated. We went into admin and were bought when in admin. We received the penalty for going into admin (which I note you haven't received yet) but the club never seemed to exist. A new owner simply took over from the old owner, sorted out by the administrator. In between, he lowered the outgoings of the club by dispensing of staff and some expensive players. I note that you are hanging onto all of your players. If you liquidate, you seek to exist, and so I presume the clubs will decide whether to admit your fresh application for a new club. For me, the difference is a bit technical and I would vote to keep you in.'" Neither have Bradford yet, but this report seems to suggest Bradford have forfeited membership of SL from entering administration, and even if Liquidation is avoided it would be for the RFL in consultation with other SL clubs.(I thinking the consultation as a vote here) www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... over-bulls I was just wondering.

Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Neither have Bradford yet, but this report seems to suggest Bradford have forfeited membership of SL from entering administration, and even if Liquidation is avoided it would be for the RFL in consultation with other SL clubs.(I thinking the consultation as a vote here) www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... over-bulls I was just wondering.'" Yeah, reading that, the points are automatic but the clubs and RFL can decide whether anything else should happen. My only thing is that something different from the rules shouldn't happen. If the rules allow that, fine. Maybe the biggest player is the taxman, because don't creditors have to agree to a certain pence in the pound towards their outstanding liabilities, and if they don't, bang? Beyond that, the difference between being bought when in administration or starting again in the same place and doing the same thing seems more a matter for insolvency lawyers than a sport. Deduct the points, maybe six if you go bust completely, and carry on.

Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Neither have Bradford yet, but this report seems to suggest Bradford have forfeited membership of SL from entering administration, and even if Liquidation is avoided it would be for the RFL in consultation with other SL clubs.(I thinking the consultation as a vote here) www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... over-bulls I was just wondering.'" Yeah, reading that, the points are automatic but the clubs and RFL can decide whether anything else should happen. My only thing is that something different from the rules shouldn't happen. If the rules allow that, fine. Maybe the biggest player is the taxman, because don't creditors have to agree to a certain pence in the pound towards their outstanding liabilities, and if they don't, bang? Beyond that, the difference between being bought when in administration or starting again in the same place and doing the same thing seems more a matter for insolvency lawyers than a sport. Deduct the points, maybe six if you go bust completely, and carry on.

The clubs don't actually have a vote in this according to Nigel Wood. The clubs can vote on how many teams are in Super League, but our membership to super league will be decided by the RFL board, not the clubs.

It is a joint decision. If the clear majority of clubs want an option there is no way the RFL board will go against it.

Since the rfl bought the odsal lease without any consultation of clubs they have been put on the back foot for their decision making. The Bulls going bust 'despite' the purchase has weakened the rfl board.

Somebody might want to tell Nigel Wood, he seems to disagree!

Why bother? The SL clubs know how the decision will be made. If it goes t*ts up for the Bulls then the Nigel gets the flack.

The statements after the SL meeeting were very interesting. Cast iron assurances that the Bulls will finish the season. Not an inch given after that.

the RFL only have so much money they can throw into the black hole called Odsal. They already own the lease of the ground I think 13 other clubs will be asking serious questions if much more money is used to prop up another member club that has little chance of paying it back

Exactly. Many SL clubs are struggling financially. They are not looking kindly on the RFL offering excessive assistance to one SL team. Furthermore if the RFL allow the Bulls to easily stay in SL after administration then they may face 2 or 3 other clubs taking the same route...causing the game to appear even more ridiculous.

btw if Bradford are liquidated rather than come out of admin with new owners etc. then all their players are free to walk away and sign for whoever.

A newco would need their permission to transfer their registration to the new club.

Have a word with yourself, you've never brought 500 never mind that figure in 6 years of us being in superleague.

It's not our fault that our support is dwarfed by the 20,000 you bring to odsal every year.

No sorry we would only take 500 to caravan park because the zoo does have a limit on how many visitors can go see the atrractions

It's good to see the KR fans using photos of themselves for their avatars. That might be why away fans don't flock in their hordes to East Hull.

I was wondering where the 2000 travelling support from Bradford where? I can see them taking that many to say Leeds, but certainly have never been that many at Saints. I just assumed they kept it more local and so turned up in numbers for Huddersfield Wakey etc.

Not this season the away support from the Bulls was pathetic if you want confirmation look at Wakeys gates this season and you will see the turnout against the Bulls v other teams was well short.

Did the rest of the teams play a TV game on a freezing cold Saturday night in February?

I think you will find I said IF WE BECOME A FORCE AGAIN WE WOULD TAKE AROUND 2,000. Not in 2012 jeez read before you post.

And to the saints fan, why are we going to take 2,000 when we are not a force besides, your fans are quiet and attendences have dropped since KR was pulled down.

And your point is are you fickle?

You show me a set of fans that are not.

Really bemused as to why the odd player or two hasn't been moved on by the liquidator ??

Surely fees have been offerred, that plus reducing wage bill would surely appease creditors & get the Bulls to the end of season ?

Makes me wonder about the cheap takeover/relaunch while retaining ALL your players.

Now if that is allowed to happen ALL goodwill will disappear, the Sport will look ridiculous & the RFL should brace itself for another 3 clubs following the same route.

Genuinely hope you survive in SL or at worst in the Championship,your fan base dictates you will.