So who are you hoping gets the coaching gig? And will they are also need to meet your unrealistic targets, totally ignoring the lack of resources available at the Bulls nowadays?

Whoever we bring in is going to have to be some coach to get a club who clearly do not have a 'top 4' budget performing to top 4 standards. If anything they may well have even less funds available next year if the support continues to dwindle.

Why was Halley taken off?

Hopefully not another injury.

Not good. Poor body language coming onto the pitch. Some of those players had already lost that game before a ball was even kicked.

Can't blame Childs - generally the dominant team gets the majority of the calls - Hudds forwards were dominant. That was nothing to do with the ref.

We went for a thin squad this year (insert Solomona jokes here) and that means we are less able to cover for several injuries at a time. It was a gamble taken at the end of last season which I agreed with then and as we cannot do anything about now we just have to get on with it.

If you are playing behind a beaten pack then your half backs need to be really good to stand a chance - our main chance was Orford and he wasn't fit.

It is a bit of a vicious cycle at the moment - some players are carrying knocks that need a game off to recover but are having to play as there is not a lot of scope for rotation without taking a huge gamble by playing a lot of kids. Unfortunately starting a game with a knock is more likely to exacerbate the problem and lead to another injury. I hope Hall is fit for next week as we basically only had 3 fit subs today.

Can't argue with any of that. I think the quality of quantity decision was probably the right way to go. The next bit of recruitment will be tough for the incoming coach. They're going to have to scour SL to strengthen our squad and there aren't that many quality non-quota outside backs in SL.

Very good summation IMO.

Unrealistic targets? What like not getting embarrassed at home by Huddersfield? That is unrealistic?

And what is unrealistic about wanting to see a competitive side BB?

No of course not. I just get the sense from some of your postings that you don't feel we should be losing to teams like Huddersfield, Hull KR etc. You don't seem to ever acknowledge that things have changed up at Odsal and it isn't all down to the coach.

So who do YOU want to see as the new Coach? And where do you feel this team should be if they didn't have a 'clueless idiot coaching'?

You are banging your head against a brick wall, mate. You can't argue with a closed mind, so why bother even trying?

You crack me up, Ted.

I'll take macnamara's word for it that Southernwood etc aren't quite ready for 1st team football but if they were it would make life a lot easier.

I can't see the benefit from moving players around to accomodate and injury.

!. Kearney is out so straight swap with Reardon don't mess the 1st choice three quarter line up then we might see them linking with each other if they actually played with each other for longer than one match in every 5.

7. Orford is out straight swap with Southernwood (if he were ready to play SL level although he maybe needs to add a few pounds first all he could end up seriously injured) then you aren't dragging in a full back (changing the back line round) or a hooker (leaving us short up front).

Prop. Sculthorpe not ready to make debut Crossley, Burgesses etc. etc.

13. Langley is so swap him with Addy.Whitehead is now a first team player and Menzies has done everything so it should help him out.

It would make a real difference if we could just bring them straight in but that's a luxury that the next coach will enjoy.

Either way the performance this afternoon was embarassing and unacceptable and nothing can explain the way they let their heads drop in the first half. The second half performance was an improvement but way off what we should have expected with the players we had out on the field. Players that have been around long enough to know how to tackle, run onto the ball, take the ball securely into contact, to not let the ball bounce, to chase kicks and last (and what I found most annoying today) to run to form a scrum when you are behind on the scoreboard. Once the ref has called time off you can then worry about who stands where but when the players are walking up to form the scrum it makes you wonder if they are bothered at all. It also sends a message to the other team.

I am sure that BB is capable of making his own decisions.

That's the spirit.

As many suggested we were always going to struggle in this game after the last two, both mentally and physically. Unfortunately, just as you get games when you are 'all over' the opposition, the inevitable other side of that was what we got yesterday. I expect anyone who has played sport, at any level, can empathise with that, disappointing as it is.

Putting that aside though, we need some more of our money back on the paddock and not sitting in the stand. The squad was thin to start with and it's pretty impossible to cope with so many injuries, to key players, at the same time.

We have a winner in the "Most Hyperbolic Piece of Ludicrous Exaggeration Awards 2010


"Clueless idiot = England Coach elect" -

That's what has got up your nose, we all know! You can't accept having been so utterly wrong about McNamara's capabilities. You used to have it in your sig when I said I predicted a bright future for him. You hate having been wrong and the fact I (and many others) was right. And of course in true ME style, you aren't big enough to put your hands up and admit your mistake, nor will you ever be, even if McNamara went on to be Head Coach of the Universe XIII.




Would this be the sorry state where we were a single point ahead of our opponents before the match, and are now just a single point behind? How sorry a state is that? Come on, at least try to stay on the fringes of reality.


Nope. Some people were, realistically, not expecting us to be challenging for the title.

Next year, all our youngsters will be one year older, harder and bigger, though. Including, for example, the Burgii. We may do some shrewd business in the market, but the way our finances are we will need to rely increasingly on producing our own.

That is actually one of the funniest conspiracy theories I have heard from some of the folks sitting nearby at Odsal.

The theory goes that our players are so cunning and clever

(and also able to turn their form on the playing field on and off at will) that they deliberately played well early in the season to get Macca the England post so that there was no chance of him staying on next season - and are now deliberately concocting injuries and playing badly so that the board will be encouraged to release him early. I don't know whether to laugh or cry

I'm not a Bulls fan but I've always liked your club since they led the way in embracing the "summer era", as Eddie would say. Personally, I do think that your team have been moving in the right direction this season but a thumping like this is always going to be hard to take. Still, I would point out that other clubs, like Quins and Hudds themselves have taken similar batterings this season and bounced back. It's how your lads back up from this that really counts. I also think Brown's comments about his players being overlooked by McNamara may actually have fired up some of his players a bit, not to mention the fact that they had been on an awful run but then had a week off to prepare for putting it right against you guys.

its sad that our ambition is measured by some in comparison with Quins, HUdds etc...

The club needs to act now in terms of starting to give fans what they want. obvioulsy results are out of their control, but the rest of the gameday experience is not.

make the day worth coming to, get some crowds in and therefore some atmosphere, and then watch the team grow.

If it is true that Mcnamara was quoted in the T%A as saying that his absence will have no impact, the let him go now. why are we paying him? if his week off has no impact on us, then the other 51 when he is there makes him surplus to requirements.

Wow, that was a shock result

When was the last time you were beaten by 46 points at home?

or away for that matter.

I wasn't comparing ambition, merely pointing out that they have bounced back from similar hidings, so there is every reason to suppose you can too.

As far as the gameday experience goes, we all remember when the Bulls were the unquestioned leaders in this field. What do you guys think happened? Did the club just sacrifice this as a cost-cutting measure when the finances got awkward, or did they just get complacent?

Matchday entertainment is expensive. Bulls can no longer afford it.

Crowds drop, less income.

Vicious circle.

Whats wrong with being compared with Hudds though? They have a rich backer, good stadium and are spending the full salary cap. For starters. None of which apply to us. As things currently stand, I'd say that was a compliment?



Great if they could, but how would you pay for it? Its hand to mouth as it is, and there is not enough in the kitty to fund the salary cap. Would you rather we cut the playing staff further to fund the cost? They had to compromise on the playing staff to get the brilliant new training facilities - which will for sure pay massive dividends in years to come - I suspect they would feel any spare pennies go there or into young player recruitment or the players first and foremost?



That is a pretty dumb comment? Quite apart from what do you expect him to say, there is the world of difference between missing the prep for one match and permanent absence. Sorry, but I feel that deserves a rarely-bestowed Adeybull

Who else were the RFL going to pick ? Nobody wanted the role and I reckon Steve knew he wasn't going to get another contract with the club, and jumped ship as soon as.

He sure underestimated Huddersfield's capabilities, by not picking any of them for the England game.

How many times does he come away on the back of a loss with the comment 'I'm puzzled as to what went wrong'

I wonder how many rugby fans (really) feel England doesn't stand a chance with Steve at the helm.

Eh? You were right about what exactly? Seriously, if you are trying to suggest that you (and many others) are actually happy (perhaps even impressed) by McNamaras' efforts then I really do despair.

If McNamara had a "bright future" he would have been snapped up by a bigger team or went down under. Recently, the England coach has been a dual role - shame no club want to offer him this option.



The same opponents who we were above in the table yet they still came to our place and put 52 past us? Yeah - great achievement. It actually shows that we were worse than I thought.



We are not challenging for anything. A couple of weeks ago I pointed out that we had taken three points out of fourteen against the bigger sides in the comp. Since then we have lost to Wire and Hudds. 3 points out of 16 and dumped out the cup when we faced our first decent side.

The "England elect coach" has taken us to a great position but he will soon be offski. That does not bother me in the slightest, as long as he is nowhere near Odsal I do not care. In fact, as a Scotsman who has no interest in International RL then England is the best place for him as far as I am concerned. As rival fans have already alluded to, McNamara will soon be screwing up the England side. It is only a handful on here that seem to rate the guy. As I said, there are plenty of Bradford fans who are seriously content with minimum. You (and many more) are them.

I would leave it. I suggested this before and was quickly abused for the very thought of saying it. However, I am sure that Adey and fa (among others) will give you the same treatment and try and scare you off.