In that case he'd be counting his fingers

There is that...

thing is, im not too concerned about the bradford city thing. they don't want to share a ground at odsal, but as far as i knew they were never part of the original OSV plan anyway and a lot of the talk of them moving to odsal was to try and light a fire under whoever they're paying rent to for vp and trying to get a better deal out of them

For clubs who draw most of their support from out of town I could see how that would be preferable, but the Bulls are pretty unique in that respect

A new stadium in Cleckhuddersfax it is then.

Latest update! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... hout_City/

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Quote ="Blotto"Latest update! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... hout_City/'" Seems to be moving along as quickly as ever In the current climate I can't see us attracting much in the way of funding for a new stadium very soon. It'd be interesting to hear the club's take on all this at the fans forum.

Quote ="Blotto"Latest update! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... hout_City/'" Seems to be moving along as quickly as ever In the current climate I can't see us attracting much in the way of funding for a new stadium very soon. It'd be interesting to hear the club's take on all this at the fans forum.

I still find it hard to believe that people still think that this will ever happen.

Surely the amount of money that has been spent on project committees, steering groups, etc we could of had the thing half built by now if they'd actually just get on with it!

I know funding needs to be in place, but we're not going to get this in the current economic climate. We missed the boat and should have got the thing moving properly at the height of Bull-mania when sponsors were almost falling over themselves to get involved and we had a lot larger fan base to assist in making noises.

I fear we are stuck with our hole in the ground for a lot, lot longer, especially after reading the T&A article earlier.

Very true, imo. The club who were involved in the original plan are, of course, building a new stadium at Thornbury, and if plans are on course it should be about ready now.

Oh hang on, it`s looking a bit like the superdome project; still a figment of the imagination. I wouldn`t be shocked to see Avenue (with a different chairman, perhaps?) come back into the fold.

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Quote ="Blotto"A Shot across the Council's Bow! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ave_Odsal/ '" Why do I get a sinking feeling that the Council's long term ambition to get us tucked up with City at VP is just around the corner?

Quote ="Blotto"A Shot across the Council's Bow! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ave_Odsal/ '" Why do I get a sinking feeling that the Council's long term ambition to get us tucked up with City at VP is just around the corner?

Plus ça change...

I wouldn't be completely against moving to VP, under the right terms.

TBH, I'm getting fed up of clinging to a sliver of hope.....FFS make the decision; either build it or have the balls to say you're not and we can all start looking to the future!

Quote ="Blotto"A Shot across the Council's Bow! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ave_Odsal/'" I don't think Keighleys ground is fit for purpose either. Is that something the council should sort out as well?

Quote ="Blotto"A Shot across the Council's Bow! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ave_Odsal/'" I don't think Keighleys ground is fit for purpose either. Is that something the council should sort out as well?

Indeed.

Quite clear that Odsal stadium and Cougar park should be demolished, and replaced with a shared purpose-built stadium. As with all such new stadia, it needs to be built as near as possible to the strategic road network to maximise commercial use and cost-defraying opportunities. The best site in the district meeting that criterion would be at the top of the M606...

Same here but those terms are the sticking point. We would need to be equal partners in every respect and we wouldn't be wanting to be lumbered with any costs that might handicap the future of the club, i.e paying some third party for the privilege of being there, unless it's a peppercorn rent.

However while there's a chance of getting the stadium developed as part of the OSV we should be 100% behind it.

I look forward to your lobbying letter to the T&A

Hey mate, if we COULD get a shared stadium for the two clubs as I envisaged, I would be ecstatic. Suspect the location would not suit the good burghers of Keighley, although on a purely personal basis I would prefer the new shared stadium to be built somewhere off the new road between Keighley and Crossflats - cos that would be much nearer for me...!

You're not alone there!

whats the proplem with bradford fans about maybe moving to valley parade genuine question. i remember going there when you guys was there and seemed good to me alot better then odsal, i know fans would rather have there own stadium ect but for me id rather the club be in a better shape with a nice stadium ect then risk losing a licence. at the moment bradford arnt in trouble about been kicked out of super beacuse bradford are a big club with decent crowds ect but as time goes on and crowds carry on falling ect and other teams get there new stadiums you could risk losing a place in super league. also i heard bradford city was in finacial difficulties so they would welcome the bulls to valley parade.

I reckon that if the OSV gets the thumbs down on 16th Feb we'll be moving to Valley Parade.

just been looking at pictures of valley parade and looks very good would be one of the best in super league and looks very big whats its capacity? i know the away stand needs redeveloping abit but i think away fans could accept it hhhaaa
i also remeber you having decent crowds there cant remeber but was it something like 11-12k average attendences for the 2 years you were there think it was 2 years anyway. overall if the new stadium dosent happen which in these times at the moment i dont think will happen but valley parade looks a great stadium and should be looked at by the bulls

If the OSV gets mothballed then both clubs could share VP on equal terms. The Council could use the money they were putting towards Odsal to buy back Valley Parade from Gordon Gibb, some rows could be taken out of the front of the Kop so the pitch could be extended a little and the second tier of the main stand could be finished off so that it actually reaches the end of the playing area...in theory of course.

I think any changes to the currenct "shape" of the ground are pretty much impossible due to building restrictions (Unless some housing in demolished!)

they could use the money to build a brand new away stand