Worryingly, looking at the head to head stats with quins, there's not a great deal of difference between us and them.
If anyone turns up Friday thinking it'll be an easy 2 pts may go home disapointed
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But I will just say, as I was at the fans forum too, Peter Hood said top 4 and a final were how the club would measure success. But if you don't succeed then you have failed.

The question nobody asked was where he expects the current squad to finish.

Top 4 and a final would be a successful season. I expect we'll finish 6th at best. Anything less than 8th would be a failure IMO.

Top 4 & a final would be a success in anyone's book, even Leeds would probably take that now. If Bradford get that it would be a miracle not success.

Indeed. And in fact what I wrote down was:

Question - What cup run and final placing would we consider success?

PH Answer - To reach at least one final each season and to be in the top 4 would be considered success. But also have to consider what players are available - for example, if we had ten injuries then that would be a different scenario. But otherwise, anything less than that just means we have not achieved - i.e we have failed.

Not claiming this as being an exact transcript, but it should be close. And yes, it seems that even though you will see PH did not say he actually expected that achievement this year, he nevertheless appears to hold the same view as Paul and Roofaldo - that not to achieve it is failure. And, I guess by extension, the coach (and the club) would have failed?

I'd be happy to be proved wrong as long as we get a quality replacement) but I think that will be at the back of the boards mins, play-off place and a semi-final (thats a huge improvement on last season aswell)

Tonked u joker? We lost to a v.good team 18-6 who simply had better players than us and half there team were not suffering with a flu virus and the fact we had to re-shuffle without OX - It was never guna happen

But:
Game 1 - no Langley. We're not so blessed that we can cover the absence of the league's current best forward
Game 2 - half the squad or more under the weather with a virus. That's taking nothing away from Hull's effort, but if you are struggling with a virus, a SL field such as away at the KC for 80 minutes is not the place of choice to be.

Not excuses, just factors, mind.

I must admit to having seen no evidence or report of half the squad having a virus.

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This was a team that finished 12th last season and apparently we have recruited well this season so I dunno how this argument holds up TBF. We also got the late late try that makes it look slightly better.

However, each to their own views I guess.

Cheers. I had seen a couple of T&A reports about Orford, but no-one else.

But as you'd heard it from THE ultimate source of reliable information (myself), why on earth would you need to look elsewhere?

I never trust anyone with a hot porn 'tache. Unless it's a woman.

In fairness to myself, I was unaware of any sickness bug going round the team until after I posted the original post on this thread.

That said, if any players were not at 100% then surely they should not have been playing?

Come now Eddie I'm sure you've been into work when not feeling quite the ticket haven't you? Sometimes you have to do it because it's unfair on others to leave them in the lurch. I think the players who played when feeling ill deserve applauding for making the effort. Sure we could've brought in some untried kids but maybe that would've done more harm than good?

OK, fair point, well made.

That said though, I am not laughing at one of your quips again.

Plus we have likely done the rest of the clubs a favour and spread the virus all round Hull and scuppered their next couple of weeks.

Eddie, stop listening to reason. You're making me nervous.

OK FA, I will stick to listening to you then.

Makes Deacon's sacrifices over 10 years even the more remarkable when he was plainly physically not up to it.

Oh, like you ever did!

Let me just see if I can find anywhere . . . .




Nope . . .




No, I was right, you never did. It is your biggest failing, for you would learn so much.

I am sure they were factors but I still feel we're too light in the pack to compete with some clubs in conditions like last week. I hope that when the weather improves and the pitches firm up it may be more of an advantage to have a more mobile pack. However I still maintain we're lacking an impact Prop who can skittle a few defenders. Even if Sculthorpe ever pulls on a shirt, I'm not sure that is the type of player he will be for us.

I'm not looking forward to the Leeds game as much now. Bentham is the ref, and both times we've had him so far he's been terrible imo.

Sculthorpe's game is not scuttling defenders though. He's fat & lazy but with excellent ball handling & short kicking, & a penchant for head high shots.