My apologies. The only points that should be made over and over again are those that bury their heads in sand and pretend all is right with the world. The club is amazing. The owners, outstanding. Everything is awesome and all that other guff. At least if I were to peddle that crap in every post, nobody would criticise eh?

This club unfortunately has far too many sheep as fans. They'll keep the club going in the short term. They'll be it's downfall in the long term.

Have to say I'm very underwhelmed with the season ticket marketing - so much fertile ground for a campaign about building from the bottom sadly missed, so far

You should not apologise.
Your point is fair and is echoed by others - including myself.
Although mine is more about - I'd struggle to afford it, full stop.
Had I saved all the money I'd spent trying to keep the Bulls out of repeated Admins - I would probably be able to buy an ST for next season - but hey ho
I'm still going to support them, irrespective of which league we're in - but this constant barrage of "you must buy a ST" is having the opposite effect on me, I get enough people telling me what to do in other parts of my life - rugby should be a release - not another "must do"

Have the club been made aware of this "marketing" thing you speak of? It may be a better solution than an e-mail every week telling us that season tickets are on sale, but without all the info that generally accompanies said sale (gameday price, early bird deadline, amount of games etc.). Perhaps if they got rid of the idiot in charge of social media and the website, they could hire someone to do this new fangled "marketing" stuff properly. Or the chairman could maybe stop being a mute.




Well said. I am sick and tired of all the people who insist you have to hand over your first born in order to keep the club alive because you need to just be happy you still have a club. You're absolutely right, it used to be a hobby/interest/pastime. Recently it's become a chore. If someone wants me to pay to do a chore, they need to give me some bloody good reasons instead of just relying on my good nature (which has long since gone away as I've got older!)

Agreed. Although I am a fan of supporting your team through thick and thin the 'pressure' of buying a season ticket is ridiculous. Some people just can't afford the up front cost. I know I can't

However I will be there next season paying on the gate as I have since 2014. But people should be entitled to spend their weekend how they want and if that doesn't involve the Bulls then that's damn well okay!

Still can't understand how, when announced on at least 3 occasions on Sunday, they don't know when the next home fixture is can we be expected to buy a ST? I will be getting one, as per the last few years, but need to know the number of fixtures included before splashing cash!!

because they don't know what league they are in yet...
£149 is hardly handing over your first born is it?
I know of another good signing that has happened, so a lot better squad than 2017 is already been moulded.
It's not a big deal really there is a good squad been assembled for either league get onboard and buy one or pay on the day as long as the product (team performance) is worth paying for, I can't see the problem.
number of games give or take a few either way isn't worth arguing over if the games are worth watching, I have attended some since SL relegation that have been down right appauling.

It won't work this year, but the target has to be getting something like a 9 month direct debit, interest free for ST's.
Would need electronic scanners on the gates (we don't have), a paperless system (not a chance at the moment) good banking facilities (still not fully convinced) and a really good IT system to track it (also we don't have).
But the monthly cost would come right down, club has a fixed income for a big chunk of the year and can be renewed really easily

Perhaps when the new stadium is built.....

To be fair to the club, hard to do a campaign about building from the bottom, if - as rumoured by some - we won't be in the bottom division after all. In fact it's hard for them to tell us anything at all, number of games for example. Of course - to go back to being less than fair to the club - it begs the question why start selling them now with so little info to go off.

The fans will have to raise the money for that first I assume.

Because despite being "rugby people", the ones running the club often come across as if they're making the whole thing up as they go along and don't really know what they're doing. I hope that impression is wrong, but there's been plenty of evidence in the last 8 months to suggest otherwise.

The best way to make a point is to use an extreme example. An "exaggeration"...

exaggeration
ɪɡˌzadʒəˈreɪʃ(ə)n
noun
a statement that represents something as better or worse than it really is.
"it would be an exaggeration to say I had morning sickness, but I did feel queasy"
synonyms: overstatement, overemphasis, magnification, amplification, aggrandizement, overplaying, dramatization, overdramatization, enhancement, elaboration, over-elaboration, embellishment, over-embellishment, embroidery, hyperbole, overkill, gilding the lily; More
the action of making exaggerations.
"he was prone to exaggeration"


The point was never that £149 is a rip off. It was against those people who seem to be under the impression that even if the club were to ask for £1,000 for a season ticket, we should all pay it because we love the club and are just happy it still exists. Those idiots.

..Or, if it's a too gross exaggeration, is it the best way to make the reader close his eyes, grimace and not believe a word of it?

Such as "he was miles offside there"? I would argue that's a fairly gross one, and yet how many times have you heard that particular phrase (and likely nodded in agreement)?

I'd argue that 'miles offside', whilst it is an exaggeration (clearly), is more of an idiomatic expression than anything else and is so common, and not just in sport but many areas of life, that no-one can ever believe it is intended to be factually accurate.

Of course, it's obviously also true that no-one seriously thinks that it's necessary to 'forfeit your first born' to buy a season ticket. However, that isn't it a common idiom, so it's maybe, more like bringing Hitler into an argument over traffic wardens, ie, just a little over the top and not always the best way to make your point?

I would argue that the idea of sacrificing your first born as an exaggeration of something being a higher cost than it should be is actually very common. Whether it's specifically an idiom or not is perhaps up for debate, but I see little difference personally.

There is no debate about 'idioms', if it's commonly used then it IS, by definition, an idiom. It's not one that I'm at all familiar with to be honest.

Debatable if it's commonly used then. I've certainly heard it plenty.

Fantastic idea. To be fair also reduces the chance of the clubs owners hightailing it with all the money upfront too that people may be worried about (not me for some reason). Also keeps a steady stream of income coming in too, the only thing is if things go pear shaped and fed up fans start cancelling the direct debits!

Going back to the point about us not able to announce when we are next playing at odsal, they wouldn't have been able to announce that if we had stayed up would they?

I cant believe the lack of clarity from the Club around the ST's.
Why cant they just confirm - is it okay to use your children as payment for a Season Ticket or not?

Probably only if you pay the £49 for them to enter the ground first, then hand them over.

To be fair, that could be a fantastic academy system! As soon as the kids are born, hand them to Bulls and they will train them from birth to be the next Peacock/Burgess/Bateman/Pryce! We'd have to wait 17/18 years for the results though! Haha.

Don't think we'd run with that - how many of our fans would want their kids to be handed over to Huddersfield? Some prices are just too high!