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| Not looking forward to Blackpool
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| Quote ="zapperbull"Not looking forward to Blackpool'"
Why not? It's another of the RFL's little treats for us - being their favourites and all.
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| Quote ="Frank Whitcombe"Left a game with 20 mins to go for the first time in my life'"
Me too.
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| Quote ="Smack him Jimmy"Me too.'"
I left with 30 to go. Was a joke.
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| I stayed to the bitter end. It was a long last 20 minutes though.
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| Quote ="debaser"I stayed to the bitter end. It was a long last 20 minutes though.'"
How did the players act at the end of the game? Did they thank the fans for turning up?
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| Must admit, I left early too. Only a minute or two, as Sheffield went over for their last try there didn't seem a whole lot of point sticking around to watch them convert it as I had no intention whatsoever of applauding them. At that point I really wanted to just get home, to the pub and pretend I'd never heard of Rugby League.
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| Well I couldn't be bothered going since I knew another thrashing was on the cards and I'm sick of feeling obligated to go to games - I want to go because I enjoy it. The next two games will see us concede another 100+ points. I can think of better things to do with my time so will be back for the Dewsbury game on 4th June. Lose that and we're done.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Well I couldn't be bothered going since I knew another thrashing was on the cards and I'm sick of feeling obligated to go to games - I want to go because I enjoy it. The next two games will see us concede another 100+ points. I can think of better things to do with my time so will be back for the Dewsbury game on 4th June. Lose that and we're done.'"
This is the first time I think I've ever felt like that, but I sat at the game yesterday thinking exactly the same. Just sitting thinking "Do I really want to carry on doing this, spending time and money on this total rubbish?". Normally, I would carry on out of obligation, loyalty and a little guilt of not going, but in all fairness, I don't think anyone at the club gives two turds if I keep going or not anyway. They certainly don't seem to care, so I'm not sure I should either.
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| TBH I was feeling like that after the Fev debacle last season when we just didn't turn up and put in a shameful non effort. This season the team might not have been as good but it's given 100%. However they've been let down by those running the club. The Easter train wreck could've been seen coming for weeks and we're now cannon fodder. With a dual reg with bloody Widnes the supposed answer to our problems. The Operations Manager Russ McFarlane says it's hard to recruit because of Easter [iand Toronto recruiting a lot of players[/i That says a lot about our ability or desire to recruit.
I'm just not feeling it at the moment. The endless bodged up press releases, the Chisholm c0ck up and the Toovey and Phoenix visa fiascos. Not getting the away kit right. It's all so amateurish. The honeymoon period was always going to be short with the new owners after everything we've been through since 2012. I'm voting with my feet until I see hard evidence they're in it for real.
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| Quote ="RickyF1"How did the players act at the end of the game? Did they thank the fans for turning up?'"
Dunno mate, I left immediately after the hooter sounded.
We scored some good tries in the last twenty, whilst Sheffield took a nap. Poor doesn't even come near to covering it overall.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Poor doesn't even come near to covering it overall.'"
No no, they weren't poor. Look at the report on the website, they battled hard to the very end!
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I'm voting with my feet until I see hard evidence they're in it for real.'"
Without actually planning to I already did the same, even before this slump set in. I had a burst of enthusiasm at the start of the season but it's a month now since I've been to a game. The only reason I'm here now is I literally just this minute remembered there was a game yesterday and I didn't know the result.
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| Quote ="vbfg".. The only reason I'm here now is I literally just this minute remembered there was a game yesterday and I didn't know the result.'"
Except, apart from the precise scoreline, you actually did know the result, and that probably sums up why so many of us are so fscked off.
Be careful though - you'll have blockhead on in a minute accusing you of "taking your bat home".
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| Quote ="RickyF1"How did the players act at the end of the game? Did they thank the fans for turning up?'"
All the players came up to the North Terrace and applauded those of us that were still there after the hooter.
They looked totally dejected.
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| Quote ="jayb"They looked totally dejected.'"
Part of the problem was that they looked like that from the moment they conceded the first try. It was like they gave up straight away.
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| Trouble is that after you get a few hidings you lose confidence. Things start to go downhill quickly. A losing culture starts to develop. We need experienced leaders in the pack. Without some go forward and protection for the kids we’ll be absolutely murdered in the next couple of games.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Trouble is that after you get a few hidings you lose confidence. Things start to go downhill quickly. A losing culture starts to develop. We need experienced leaders in the pack. Without some go forward and protection for the kids we’ll be absolutely murdered in the next couple of games.'"
I saw someone on Twitter point out that after the second try was conceded, our captain Mr. Pryce rather than trying to keep heads up, motivating, or even giving them some hell, was stood with his hands on his knees and slumped over behind the sticks. Hardly the sort of thing a captain should be doing.
Sometimes I think criticism like that is unjust, but I'm starting to come round to agreeing with it. It's the captain's job to try and stop heads going down, and whilst it may be a nigh on impossible task at times, he could at least try.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Trouble is that after you get a few hidings you lose confidence. Things start to go downhill quickly. A losing culture starts to develop. We need experienced leaders in the pack. Without some go forward and protection for the kids we’ll be absolutely murdered in the next couple of games.'"
Yesterday wasn't about our side being too young IMO I would only count Kirk & Hodgson from the line up yesterday as "kids" the rest of other lads had plenty of championship experience. 1-7 was arguably as strong as we could put out. We had 5 props. Many of
the tries we conceded yesterday were down to individual mistakes. The amount of tries Sheffield scored from a flat ball on our try line without a hand being laid on them was embarrassing. Players just completely out of position defensively. Our tackling techniques is worrying with no one seemingly able to bend their backs. Thomas's kick for their full lenghter was just abysmal. He chipped it nicely for their winger to run onto. Not once did we put in a grubber. We were obsessed with floating it up in the air. The kick-offs again, just aren't good enough. It might seem silly criticisng a kick off, but floating it up nicely for them to catch on their 15m to pass to a steaming forward lets them start their set on the 30m line.
From the side that demolished Sheffield at our place, we were missing Murrary, Larroryer & Bentley from the pack. I would only count Larroryer as experienced. I wouldn't be surprised if that side that won, was younger than the one yesterday. The team looks shot and they need to snap put of it. Not one player has come out and apologised for yesterday and promised to put it right. For me i'd have a week off. rest up and get their heads away from the game. They are in bad habits and more training will just result in them continuing bad habits. Have a week off. rest up physically and mentally. Come back next week not feeling sorry for ourselves, but with the spirit of those earlier in the season ready to roll their sleeves up, stand up, and rip in.
For me the number one issue is the mental state of the squad. Their heads just aren't in the fight at the moment.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"The kick-offs again, just aren't good enough. It might seem silly criticisng a kick off, but floating it up nicely for them to catch on their 15m to pass to a steaming forward lets them start their set on the 30m line.'"
It may seem a small thing, but even a Sheffield fan near me was laughing at it. Every time we did the same kick off, he laughed at how crap it was and how we weren't helping ourselves. One of those where you couldn't do anything but agree with him.
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| Confidence is clearly in short supply. Obviously due to the amount of stuffings we've had.
IIRC Murray and Bentley were two of our best when we played Sheffield at Odsal. Didn't we also have Lilley for that game?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Didn't we also have Lilley for that game?'"
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Thomas's kick for their full lenghter was just abysmal. He chipped it nicely for their winger to run onto. Not once did we put in a grubber. We were obsessed with floating it up in the air. The kick-offs again, just aren't good enough. It might seem silly criticisng a kick off, but floating it up nicely for them to catch on their 15m to pass to a steaming forward lets them start their set on the 30m line.
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Wasn't it Keyes taking the kicks yesterday tho? Also if the tactic wasn't working, who's responsible for changing tactics mid-game?
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| I think now it is down to the ambition of the new owners to decide where we go from here, the young guys have done a good job in getting us where we are but heading towards the business end of the season it is obvious to all that we need some serious experience, in my own opinion if this doesn't happen before our next game then the wrong is on the wall, we the supporters are not going to be throwing anymore money away especially after yesterday, I can think of better things to do with £50 for 15 mins of so called entertainment
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