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| Quote ="KCNBABT"At the players meeting which went on for over 2 hours that's exactly what was said. The RFL have invited bids to be in by friday with the successful bid announced next week. The main concern at the minute is that the administrators have turned round this morning and said that there is no money to pay wages. I've never been so low either playing for or supporting this club.'"
Do you think anyone will stick around?
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"That [iis[/i interesting. Remember my brief discussion on this very topic with him when we were at a function last year? His response at the time was worrying, and for good reason too as it turns out. I guess Green is just some to$$er in a suit.'"
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| Quote ="thepimp007"Go play chicken on the m62, people lost livelihoods and you still pout bitterness'"
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"There is always more than meets the eye though, I would be willing to be the RFL are offering an extraordinary increase in funding for next year, and possibly offering lower rent. Even it all comes to just one million that is still more budget than 90% of the teams in this division. The only players realistically available this time of year are the players you have just made redundant. They are also likely desperate for some money, so wouldn't be able to stand on principle about coming back. A few signing bonuses here and there to cover lost wages and all is well.
Next thing you know Oldham are relegated despite honouring every £ of debt they had and despite not signing an unsustainable squad such as Bradford have done.'"
This is the problem. We did have enough to meet our obligations before Green took over.
I've spoken to Calvert, they had steadied the ship, no debt, income/outgoings were balanced.
Then Green appeared as a complicating factor, and he was invited into the club by Whitcut.
Then 2years later, we're bust. And the owner is now being investigated for obtaining money by deception & false accounting.
If any criminality is proven, how is any of this the fault of the players, staff, fans or indeed, the RFL?
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| Just think if we'd got that kick at Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Highlander"Then 2years later, we're bust. And the owner is now being investigated for obtaining money by deception & false accounting. '"
I would just be weary about mentioning this considering the only source for this "news" is the less than reputable Mr Gledhill.
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| For a while the new club will not be able to sponsor overseas players so they are gone.
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| Didn't 'fax do something similar in 1991? Or am I dreaming? There's been a precedent set somewhere IIRC
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| I posted the following earlier today , the decision to liquidate Bradford was known last night . The RFL did not want Gary to issue a public statement. The RFL sanctioned a buyer but Gary was not convinced at the authenticity financially .
"Bradford Bulls have now entered liquidation, it has emerged. Coach Rohan Smith did not wish to comment but is believed to be shocked. Joint administrator Gary Pettit licensed Insolvency Practitioner has claimed there were four serious bidders keen to buy the club, though all interest has ended. The Bulls debts are thought to be well over £1.4 million and they have had their RFL membership terminated . The RFL will make a statement later today ."
This statement was prepared last night but the RFL blocked it .
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| Quote ="thepimp007"Go play chicken on the m62, people lost livelihoods and you still pout bitterness'"
It's never been a level playing field. This now confirms it never will be.
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"That's a bit edgy given this morning's events!'"
Had to check, sounds bad but i dont read papers or listen to news so tend to be oblivious to goings on! realise thats quite bad now
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The RFL unlike you continues to recognize the immense value to the game and all the other clubs you mention of a Bradford Bulls remaining in operation. A new club is not what they need or want. You appear to not get this basic point.
Your ignorant prattle about honouring debts is astonishing. The club has paid the ultimate price by being liquidated. That company has GONE. If anyone starts a new company and reforms the club, then plainly it won't be at the expense of any creditors of the liquidated company. You're desperately trying to make connections that don't exist.'"
Immense value? This arrogance is what has got you into this position. Championship was fine before Bradford Bulls and will be fine after it. Just has Super League has gone on without you. The money we loose from an extra 2k attendance once a season will be more than replaced by sharing out your £300k central funding.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"It devalues the Championship!'"
I tend to agree with that but it also devalues the Championship having no team for Hull KR to play at the summer bash. Teams getting byes every week in the league and season tickets at all clubs now being worth less than what they were bought at (plus club's losing income).
So either way it's not really very good is it? RFL are in between a rock and a hard place brought about the people that have run Bradford Bulls over the last 10-15 years.
Personally I'd prefer to sit the season out and see a new club formed properly and not at the last minute. Apply for entry into League 1 and build properly from there. Even if it means years as a semi pro team with no academy etc. At least it would be right.
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| Quote ="MashPotatoes"It's never been a level playing field. This now confirms it never will be.'"
Highest motorway in the country. Bound to have a few bumps in it.
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| Aaron Bower @AaronBower 3m3 minutes ago
Details emerging all the time - as a result of staying in Champ, new Bradford will get lowest central funding (ie. 12th place) for 2017
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"
The money we loose from an extra 2k attendance once a season will be more than replaced by sharing out your £300k central funding.'"
You've perhaps not noticed but the whole competition structure is predicated on 12 teams per league.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"The money we loose from an extra 2k attendance once a season will be more than replaced by sharing out your £300k central funding.'"
That won't happen. Without a club there isn't any central funding to share out.
You'll just have to lose a player or two.
Cut your cloth so to speak.
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| Further details of why Championship place has been offered, and under what sanctions [url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/revealed-bradford-remain-championship-despite-9556579here[/url
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| Quote ="daveyz999"I so hope we get a team this year, and then we hammer Halifax at the Shay.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I tend to agree with that but it also devalues the Championship having no team for Hull KR to play at the summer bash. Teams getting byes every week in the league and season tickets at all clubs now being worth less than what they were bought at (plus club's losing income).
So either way it's not really very good is it? RFL are in between a rock and a hard place brought about the people that have run Bradford Bulls over the last 10-15 years.
Personally I'd prefer to sit the season out and see a new club formed properly and not at the last minute. Apply for entry into League 1 and build properly from there. Even if it means years as a semi pro team with no academy etc. At least it would be right.'"
Agree with all that
No lover of the RFL, but they were 'damned if they did, damned if they didn't' this time...
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| Quote ="Highlander"This is the problem. We did have enough to meet our obligations before Green took over.
I've spoken to Calvert, they had steadied the ship, no debt, income/outgoings were balanced.
Then Green appeared as a complicating factor, and he was invited into the club by Whitcut.
Then 2years later, we're bust. And the owner is now being investigated for obtaining money by deception & false accounting.
If any criminality is proven, how is any of this the fault of the players, staff, fans or indeed, the RFL?'"
Its not at all their fault. But neither is it a reason to give a new Bradford the gift of free entry into the Championship. Tolouse, Toronto and many others had to start at the bottom and work their way up. Why does your successive screw ups make you eligible for special treatment?
A new club has to earn its place in the second tier.
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| Very difficult circumstances now regarding re-staffing.Unless someone bankrolls to enable continuity of existing playing staff full time as prior. Then, indeed, we face losing most, if the decision is to go part time.Has to be development of Odsal and get the lease back otherwise we would be back where we started.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)" The money we loose from an extra 2k attendance once a season will be more than replaced by sharing out your £300k central funding.'"
That's gone, already been used to pay players wages.
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| Quote ="el red"Sorry it came to this but as I said a while ago it was coming. Some things the fans need to know: The debilitating finance for next season regards the contracts the club entered into with players who the RFL had warned them couldn't be registered, yet they still signed them. The people responsible for these signing are the Head Coach and general manager who was in charge of monitoring the salary cap.
You don't sign players like Lachlan Burr if he can't be registered so the only reason you would do it is as a last ditch effort to boost season ticket sales. Marc Green has obtained all the season ticket money by deception.'"
Agree El Red. Rohan was in cahoots with Green and Duffy at the time with all three knowing the money had run out, yet still signing players in the hope of gambling that they would sell enough season tickets to see out the off season.
Marc Green was down on the creditors list for £960,000 when I have it on good authority he never put anything close to that in.
I have my suspicions who the RFL are going to favour in this new bidding process and you be rest assured that now there's a clean slate to build on, some of the people currently working at the club who have contributed to the decline of the bulls will be out the door.
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| Quote ="vbfg"You've perhaps not noticed but the whole competition structure is predicated on 12 teams per league.'"
Rules can be changed at a moments notice it would seem, we have no TV coverage obligating us to have 12 teams unlike SL. So more money for all of us.
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