And the Mark Mexico rumours won't go away, so could well be something in it.

I was under the impression that Hull were at or very near the cap maximum. If that's so an "exchange" between Pitts and Carvell would not add up.
Perhaps Black and White fans may tell us that there is room for a highly paid international kin their budget.
If this turns out to be true I agree with Bully Boxers comments.

Twitter has been red hot with this rumour since late afternoon, would have been easy for @Carvs81 to rubbish it

Still only a rumour at this stage.....

Pitts was also rumoured to be on his way, possibly to Donny, but still SL standard IMO, can play prop but is a bit on the small side, solid squad player

Adam Pearson has indeed said that we were near the cap limit and that to bring anyone in we would need to move players on, since then 2 youngsters have gone to Donny, Cunningham on season loan to London and Pitts possibly out the door so might just add up. A couple of weeks ago we were supposedly having a second look at the Fijan prop (forgotten his name) who played in the World Cup. Injuries to Liam Watts & Chris Green at Featherstone on Sunday looks to have pushed us into the market as both could be out for significant periods. Deal would only make sense if we offered a 2 year deal so maybe loaded in year 2.

Guess we will know tomorrow as too much around on social media and clubs will have to come out with a denial or admission.

Mrs Carvell could block the deal

Depends whether Carvell wants To toHe's an international prop who can command a big wage. Certainly doesn't need a season of uncertainty in his last couple of years.

surely you mean ex international prop? wasn't picked for the last world cup, unless he was injured at the time

Wonder how many refused tupe transfer so all become free agents?? Ahhhh bless u!

True. But 5 of the 6 England prop that played in the World Cup over in the NRL, then Carvells probably one of the best in the league.
International quality is probably the best phrase

Yes, he picked up a broken rib in the GF I believe.

To be fair I don't think he would have played for England anyway, Crabtree was by far the better prop. Then McNamara makes his usual joke selection with T Burgess.

Hull Daily Mail are pretty much confirming this www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Exclusiv ... story.html

Hull Daily Mail are pretty much confirming this www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Exclusiv ... story.html

Quote ="cieranblonde"Hull Daily Mail are pretty much confirming this www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Exclusiv ... story.html'" Looks like a done deal, only Bradford in his way. I would say if he wants to leave which looks the case, his contract situation looks intresting with Bradford going into admin last week

Quote ="cieranblonde"Hull Daily Mail are pretty much confirming this www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Exclusiv ... story.html'" Looks like a done deal, only Bradford in his way. I would say if he wants to leave which looks the case, his contract situation looks intresting with Bradford going into admin last week

We have two choices really. If we were a Wigan or a Warrington or a Hull we could afford to let him rot on the bench. But we can't, so get rid. He has taken his bat home so let him go. He doesn't so loyalty and he has previous for this. If he doesn't want to play, stuff him.

I can't be doing with players who don't think their contracts mean anything.

agent andy clarke, why is that name familar?....

Anyway, if he wants to leave why would we be stopping him? Our current owners said any player could leave if they wanted to when we announced we needed to save 400k. He must be a top earner, he wants to leave, let him leave.

We can't carry anyone whos heart isnt in it and we need to save cash.....i'll order him a taxi.

TBH his contract was with OK Bulls, it sounds like when he was asked to renegotiate his contract with BB2014 in order to transfer his employment via TUPE it was for different terms and he has refused (this is all of course rumour from social media and not gospel) so if true he actually didn't have a contract to honour

Oh I am pretty sure he has a contract. He just fancies a better one. Contracts are worthless in all reality when someone with more cash comes knocking.

He does have a settled home life in Warrington. If he's that desperate to go that he's willing to commit to another 45-60mins on the M62 every day then Clarkey must be in line for a decent bonus and Carvell for a pay upgrade.

Now this is a fairly good penalty for going into administration.

You lose some points, you lose central funding and you lose one of your better props.

Agree with this .

Cant stand the fact that players sign a contract for an agreed sum and then want out as soon as the going gets tough or the grass appears greener on the other side .

Disrespectful to the club but more so the fans , and i include a certain boy wonder in this scenario

regards , EW

I wouldn't be satisfied with anything less!

Yet another blow with just over a week until our first game of the season, whatever next?

What with this and a probably points deduction on the way, I genuinely can't see us avoiding relegation now.

Disappointing in so many ways. The Hull paper suggests that the Bulls are resisting and that's good to know. However at the point of administration I suspect he has the right to refuse the TUPE transfer. What surprises me is the contract on offer seems to be for 1 year with a further 1 year option whereas the Bulls contract was for 2 years. Is the money so much better it Hull?
And if there's a dispute between the clubs can we expect another approach to the RFL to decide which claim is valid? Let's hope this doesn't ruin relations between some rival fans to add to the current exchange of vitriol between SOME ( not all) elements in the Trinity and Bulls camps

any truth in the rumours of the new owners wanting to significantly alter his contract when they were all "tupe'ed" across, hence triggering a way he could just walk away...??

Think that's rubbish and not possible. You can tell someone their job is redundant but you can change the terms or two (I think) years.

TUPE seems to be the key here, as I understand it there doesn't need to be any change to the working terms of his contract, he just appears to have refused to sign the agreement which would have transferred his services from OK Bulls Ltd to Bulls 2014 Ltd, this is any players right (and any individual in all walks of life in similar circumstances). He probably did this on his agents advice who probably then did a quick round robin offer to several SL clubs. Tough on Bradford but Hull FC not to blame here, I just hope all your other players have signed their TUPE agreements.

you can change terms, but if they are deemed significant the employee does not have to accept them and can refuse to to tupe'ed across hence forcing the company to make them redundant or compromise on the contract terms that are then agreeable to the employee and employer..."The changes have to be significant and it is a very grey area that usually ends up going through employment contract lawyers though"