Can he take Nick Scruton with him?

Even Huddersfield are not that desperate!

In my opinion it's a pity the higher paid so called first team players ever got over their injuries. It was a better team without them - it's only when they got back the losses came!

I would be surprised if Kopczak didn't know that he was playing for the new owners against Hull. What would you rate the chances of that being so, on a scale of 0 to 100? Was there anybody in the ground who didn't know?

I'd say it was pretty obvious that anyone who didn't want to be a Bull would not have been on the field today, they'd have resigned like Kopczak did, wouldn't they? But I'd have said the same about the Hull game too. The only difference being that seemingly Kopczak didn't get the news [iin writing[/i from the administrator till after that game.

I meant higher paid first choice players....

Of course he knew about the sale and the new owners but until he had written confirmation he won't have known the status of his employment. The letter he received could just have easily have been to inform him he was being made redundant.



Your question is pretty much what I what I was asking and with the same reasoning.

My point was that until he received the letter, playing for the Bulls couldn't be used as implied acceptance of the new contract with OK Bulls, whereas playing today after receiving it would. Therefore yes, the receipt of the letter and when it was received is the whole point.

This is pure assumption and if any one with more HR or contracts experience than me knows the answer I'd be happy to hear it.

it would not surprise me if whoever has approached him has said that this offer wont be on the table for long and when the season is over we will look else where!!!

Does his termination of his contract automatically release his player registration though?

Wow. As a Hudds fan of long standing who remembers exactly how Bulls fans treated our club when we were in a similar financial situation I honestly didnt realise you werethat full of bitterness and hatred - how wrong can you be.
I also remember a short few weeks ago how the club was "called" by fans who had their facts wrong regarding tickets and money for tickets and a boycott called for- and were made to eat their words - by the very man being vilified on here today. That man generously gave to your club (dont remember you helping us out in our hour of need) just a few weeks ago.
Yet again the knives are out against us - again without facts being known.
What a good job the bitterness directed towards our club from Bulls fans isnt reciprocated from the fans and the board at the Giants. Im beginning to wish it was.
Please you bitter twisted people dont come to Huddersfield-your kind arent welcome.

You've hit the nail on the head there!

Wow, you must not post on Huddersfield board that often if that's your opinion of it.

Employment issues in insolvency is something I regularly advise on as an employment solicitor.

TUPE transfers occur by operation of law, it's not something a buyer can decide. In admins it usually occurs when the new co starts trading. Any employee employed just before transfer who hasn't objected to transfer in writing automatically transfers to the new company on the same terms as before. The new co stand in the old co's shoes.

It would be interesting to know when/if the new co took over running the business of the bulls.

Huddersfield fans aren't bitter towards Bradford? That is the greatest post ever to be written

I don't know, but I'm not sure it does. Didn't we hold Karl Pryce's registration when he left us for Union?

Also, wasn't the whole thing with Harris over Bradford getting him to break a contract? And we lost that case. So precedent set there, I think.

Given all clubs agreed to not approach any contracted Bradford player, surely this does mean that the club approached a player under contract?

That was the one I was thinking of. Pryce's registration was held until the end of his contracted period so when he went to Wigan there was a fee agreed to transfer his registration.
Inducement to breech contract is difficult in this case because if Kopczak has legally terminated it there is no breech so how can there be inducement to breech.
Of course all the fine moral folk who keep telling us Ok Bulls have a moral duty to pay the debts of the old company will obviously be equally annoyed if anybody has approached Kopczak while under contract even if the termination is perfectly legal, as was the sale of the Bulls to the new company...

Interesting. What happens if the administrator hadn't discussed TUPE options before transfer or given the employees the option and/or time to reject it?

Have I missed something somewhere, why are Bradford in this position? Is it Huddersfields fault? Nope that's right it's their own making but they go off crying to the RFL to bail em out.

You played the gambling game, you lost!!! Get over it and to be fair your licence should be revoked and Halifax or Fev replace you.

Professional players play as a living and can see why players would want to be guaranteed to get paid when they have a mortgage and bills to cover!!

The players have been paid so the clubs side of the contract has been upheld. Is it unreasonable to expect players to stick to the contracts they signed or to expect other clubs not to approach players under contract to another club?

There has been a few individual posters making derogatory comments regarding Huddersfield on this site and you seem to unreasonably assume that these few represent the whole consensus of all of us 10,200 season ticket holder fans.
We do not presume to speak for the other 10,188 . We enjoy the crack at Galpharm, great stadium, and invariably a competitive game.

I do not know the answer but i thought that the players were being paid by the RFL rather than the club. Would that not in a sense amount to a breach of contract by the club as in reality they were saying we cannot pay you but somebody else will cover it so you do not lose money ?

I would guess that all that is happening is that there is a game of brinkmanship going on.

The amount of money potentially to be paid by any club who signed Kopczak would be fairly miniscule compared to the legal fees involved.
I bet 10 to a dozen ther is a lot of bluster and name calling. The rfl will say we are looking into it, then Bradford and A N Other team will say we have agreed a settlement re Kopczak.

Bradford fans will say on here we Got £500,000 for him and Giants fans will post on our site we paid £50. (If indeed he comes to the Giants)

.... But there is no evidence that Huddersfield - or any other club have contacted kopczak. For all we know thd journo at T and A may have heard the rumour on these very boards! There is no evidence that the bulls hadn't already made an agreement to accept a transfer for kopczak. All there is is one journalists conjecture. But don't let that stop you anyone.

The poor guy may have just had enough of being worried, with his family afraid to spend money in case in a few weeks time he doesn't have a wage- I've been there personally and it puts a massive strain on the whole family. Perhaps he just wanted to feel in control of his future.

But you must admit it's very unlikely Kopczak has decided on a whim to terminate his contract with no other offer available. However if we see him leave rugby and start working in some other profession I'll accept he just fancied a change of career.

he lives in cheshire and heard today its salford in for him.

only speculation from t and a that he is going to huddersfield.

There has been a thread on the Huddersfield board for a while now claiming Kopczak and gale had both agreed deals there and that wasn't started by either a Bulls fan or the t&a journalist. Maybe they are wrong but they've certainly claimed it's been a done deal for a while.

Aiiii and Hull have signed Jonathan Thurston and Danny Brough too!! Don't believe what you read, what is a fact though is that Bradford owe alot of money to a lot of people and I would imagine players will have to leave to cover the debts.