I bet most of our new Aussies have never played on a pitch like that before. If we had Wally Lewis and Andrew Johns at 6&7 they'd take time to adjust and gel.

I don't use this acronym lightly but OMG have you seen the Bulls facebook page?

I was disappointed with the result and performance today, but people do blow things way out of proportion.

Righto. You do know that they have tropical rain in Australia, don't you?
This 6,7 & 9 combination isn't going to work. Kearney not a 6, Orford is overrated and L'estrange, well, he's nothing on Newton.

Well the 7 & 9 has worked before for Manly. Based on last season I wouldn't take Newton over L'Estrange. And Orford is a Dally M winner. Did you watch last years WCC?

I swear down, some people love it when we lose as they get to slag the Players, coaches, board and anything else to do with the club off.

Oh please Ewwen. HL was nothing more than a bit part player for Manly. Matt Balin was the main man at hooker. Yes I did watch last years WCC, I've also wathed a lot of NRL and have never understood British fans fascination with Matt Orford.

I hate it when we lose, I can't stand it. Don't think I'm slagging anybody off, I'm speaking my mid and if that dissapoints you then let me just assure you, that's how I feel right now.

This man is supposed to be a superstar, he hasnt shown any superstar qualities.

He is quality, if he doesn't prove it by the end of the season then i'll be shocked and disappointed.

Watching my team lose is one of the worst feelings in the world, but I don't let it cloud my judgement, Saints were good today, I don't think we were expecting it at all. I also think that we go into games with either the completely wrong, or no tactics at all. L'Estrange was still a good player, and a good player in the NRL means he is definitely good enough for SL.

Maybe you aren't as patient as me, but I will be waiting a few more games before I start getting really on their backs.

I think you're letting hope cloud your judgement, Ewwen.

No I'm not.

I do hope we do well. I hope we do the treble, who doesn't



I'm basing my judgement of Orford on watching him play in the NRL.

I must confess I don't really understand the line of arguement that you are not allowed to say "macca out" unless you can simultaneously give a better alternative. I know were on a hiding to nothing in Afghanistan - it doesn't mean I know what we SHOULD be doing instead.

One more game, three more games, maybe next year, maybe next month. Same old nonsense Warrington's insane board used to keep Cullen in a job three years too long. Great assistant coach I dare say but no more time in the top job at Bradford imo.

Wire had the wherewithal for Smith. Do we?

Just a bit of fine tuning needed, and we'll be hammering Cas on Friday.

Well they actually went straight for Lowes didn't they? He can't have cost the earth. And I reckon they shunted him aside way too early.

280k a season too !! Bring back Caisley all is forgiven !!

Don't be daft.

Just thought I would mention it, you will laugh when I tell you

The Bradford triangle at our place have been awesome once again, if you drop on old McBanana tell him thanks from a lot of grateful Wakey fans

Yeah well, most on here seem to think L'estrange is a better hooker than Newton. Jah knows how, the lad is sluggish and his distribution is diabolical at times.

Yes your right of course, I suppose we will just have to suffer

Re Wires. Cullen made the team but couldn't coach it. Was to much of a mate to the players and went out drinking with them when he should have distanced himself. Lowes took over the same team but could not coach it. Looked clueless and like a rabbit caught in the headlights. Offered to fight wakefield fans apparently while we were taking a hiding at belle vue,so obviously was not mature enough for the job. Smith took over the same team and took them from the bottom of the league to wembley and the cup win in 5 months. So it is down to coaching,not the players,and it's as clear as day that steve mac is not up to the task in front of him at the bulls.

Nonsense.

Hull's new Antipodeans have done not so bad so far have they not? Are the pitches that much firmer down by the Humber?

So no change there, then.

How typical of you.

It was a perfectly valid point but you, once again, come up with something like that. Is it Adey's day off today and you are filling in for him?

Blaming the pitch for that performance is really clutching at straws. I'm still waiting for the pitches to firm up from the start of last season, wasn't that when it was all supposed to click in 2009?

It was, actually, a "joke". You may have to google that.

As for the rest of your unnecessary crap, I've got a riddle for you. Make a slang term out of the following words:
1. head
2. Knob

I usually give it 24hrs after a bad match before posting, it usually allows me to get things into perspective but at the moment when I think about yesterday's performance I just feel thoroughly ed off.

Barring Nick Scruton I thought the team yesterday looked totally uninspired, unmotivated, lacking in direction, aggression and will to win. It was a nonentity of a performance. In the second half when Saints took the foot off the gas and we got some ball our efforts at finishing were laughable. People around me were laughing out loud at the antics on the field. At least we could laugh about it but you can bet not very many will be back next week.

At least L'Strange and Hall also found it funny. Their broad smiles at the end when the hooter went showed that some players really weren't that bothered.

I pretty much lost patience with McNamara last season but hoped that some quality players coming in would improve matters. Unfortunately there's no sign of improvement whatsoever and I really wonder how much longer this can continue. As has been stated above we're still playing to the same ineffective patterns as last year - flat attack, backline moves that are predictable and go sideways, defence that switches off and doesn't work as a unit, poor finishing, lack of ideas in the opposition 20. I could go on and on.

I've seen this before at Bradford while I've watched us and on all occasions the only solution was a change of coach. When we've flirted with relegation in the past we made a change and each time there was a fairly rapid improvement. Now without relegation we seem to be sticking with McNamara purely so we don't have to pay him out with performances on the field a secondary concern. Unfortunately if things continue as they are that will become an unsustainable option.


Solutions? Well, many have lost patience totally already and I can see why. I would say that if there's not a significant improvement over the next three games then that's it. If we have space under that cap perhaps that can be used to compensate McNamara for being given the elbow? As for a replacement if we really are strapped then make Medley head coach and have some senior players as assistants. While it may not be a long term solution it may work and it surely can't be worse than the current situation. A combo of senior players and assistants has worked in the past for a short period of time. Then lets advertise and see who applies. We have a fairly decent playing staff with 7 or 8 good players and some good kids coming through. That opportunity should appeal a few coaches out there.

I hate to be writing all this after a mere two games but TBH I see all the same failings as last year and the years before that. The team looks a million miles from being able to achieve the goals set of top 4 and a final.