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| Quote ="Bullseye"Indeed. That would be a mad decision given all the players our system has contributed.'"
Looking at the table that the RFL have internally for this current six-year Academy cycle, there will be no surprise to see Bradford in the top six for players produced that are now playing regular first team games in the Super League.
That has to and should count for a lot in the criteria.
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| Rowan Milnes not getting near HKR. Would love to see him back here.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Rowan Milnes not getting near HKR. Would love to see him back here.'"
He's played this season for them hasnt he?
Interesting York have made yet another loan signing in Mikey Lewis so that may put him higher up the order.
Personally happy with how Lilley and Brough are playing. Obviously that could all change with injuries. But I think it was Bullseye on the other thread that said Lilley going for DG at 22-10 up was excellent game management. IF we make the play-offs the games are likely to be nail-bitingly close and game management will be crucial
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Rowan Milnes not getting near HKR. Would love to see him back here.'"
We don't need him at present. Why would you drop Lilley/Brough who are playing well together?
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Was he a Bulls supporter as a lad does anyone know?'"
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| Quote ="bulls2487"We don't need him at present. Why would you drop Lilley/Brough who are playing well together?'"
I'd bring him off the bench for Doyle and put Lilley and Brough sharing dummy half (which they do anyway). Give the centres a bit of running ball. Plus the start of the season tells us that we could do with cover in the halves.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Rowan Milnes not getting near HKR. Would love to see him back here.'"
Rowan Milnes has played the last two matches for Hull KR
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| We're not going to get a loan halfback from a SL team unless we can guarantee some gametime. SL teams will only loan if they can't give their own players a game. I'd be looking to give Race and Jowitt some game time if possible so that when either Brough or Lilley are unavailable we're not chucking a kid in at the deep end.
Milnes seems to be getting a few games at HKR so he won't be back.
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| Quote ="Aldy"Rowan Milnes has played the last two matches for Hull KR'"
Oh really. I missed that, how'd he get on?
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Oh really. I missed that, how'd he get on?'"
He did ok and kept his place when Lewis had served his suspension in fact Lewis has now gone on loan to York for game time
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| I’ve heard Leeds are big admirers of Scurr and right now with him being out of contract, could he look at a big deal in SL?
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| As much as people won’t like it, Scurrying to Leeds on a four year deal might be a decent option if they then loan him back to us for 2022
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| Quote ="Frosties."I’ve heard Leeds are big admirers of Scurr and right now with him being out of contract, could he look at a big deal in SL?'"
You'll have to watch the show on Monday but since I put the news out there Wigan and Castleford have also offered him a deal.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"You'll have to watch the show on Monday but since I put the news out there Wigan and Castleford have also offered him a deal.'"
Is Craig giving you a commission for the free advertising ?
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| Quote ="Betsy Bulls"As much as people won’t like it, Scurrying to Leeds on a four year deal might be a decent option if they then loan him back to us for 2022'"
I actually agree. I know there's comments floating about like "we'll see Nigel Woods intentions whether we keep him or not"
But it's not simply a case of breaking the bank or him putting his hand in his pocket to keep Scurr. We're a PT team. We can't really compete if someone offers him a FT contract.
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| Well we seem to get on with Leeds ok, so if he went to the club he supports and they loan him straight back that would the least worst option.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"I actually agree. I know there's comments floating about like "we'll see Nigel Woods intentions whether we keep him or not"
But it's not simply a case of breaking the bank or him putting his hand in his pocket to keep Scurr. We're a PT team. We can't really compete if someone offers him a FT contract.'"
Agreed on one level but there's no point giving interviews about SL if we can't keep him for say 2 years.
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| We can only keep him if financially we can compete and to be honest if we can I would be worried we are overstretch in ourselves
The guy is a roofer playing part time rugby at 21yo, if he goes I see no blame to attach to the club or Scurr. If he signs p/t for another champ club then yes I would be worried but I don’t see this happening.
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| The broader question here is whether, and how, we are going to ever bridge the gap from where are now (part-time team in the middle of the Champ therefore players will just move on to 'better' teams) to being a SL club ourselves.
For all Nigel Wood's fine sounding talk about aiming for SL it's not going to happen if every decent player we produce is just going to hop off to a SL club as soon as they show promise.
In fact what is even the point of having an Academy if it's just to produce players for SL clubs?
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"The broader question here is whether, and how, we are going to ever bridge the gap from where are now (part-time team in the middle of the Champ therefore players will just move on to 'better' teams) to being a SL club ourselves.
For all Nigel Wood's fine sounding talk about aiming for SL it's not going to happen if every decent player we produce is just going to hop off to a SL club as soon as they show promise.
In fact what is even the point of having an Academy if it's just to produce players for SL clubs?'"
With Wigan, Leeds, Saints and Cas in for him knowing their financial might and simple position above us in the game please propose how we keep him?
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| As others have said, we are probably not in a position to offer the same financial figures as some of the SL clubs. What does work in our favour is that Scurr has worked his way through our junior system and has just started to break into the first team. I'd imagine he would struggle to hold down a starting place at a Super League side. If he was to leave perhaps a deal similar to the Rowan Milnes deal would cushion the blow of losing another young prospects.
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| How is Scurr rated compared to the young prop you sold to Huddersfield? Wilson was it?
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| My simple answer and I’ll admit I haven’t seen much of Wilson since he left and he didn’t play that many games for us but at the moment I’d be happier with Scurr in the side if we were picking a team for a game tomorrow
You never know with Levy out for majority of remaining season and Wilson not quite getting the game time....,,,
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| My simple answer and I’ll admit I haven’t seen much of Wilson since he left and he didn’t play that many games for us but at the moment I’d be happier with Scurr in the side if we were picking a team for a game tomorrow
You never know with Levy out for majority of remaining season and Wilson not quite getting the game time....,,,
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| Quote ="Pyrah123"With Wigan, Leeds, Saints and Cas in for him knowing their financial might and simple position above us in the game please propose how we keep him?'"
What's been the point of developing him then? It's worse than a waste of money in that we're improving our competitors and further ensuring we can't compete with them. I understand players leaving amid financial chaos - it's gutting but it happens. But if we cannot compete for our youth players at age 20, and who will not be considered first choice 17 at any SL club, then we need to shut the academy now. Were he 22/3 and going into a good side's 21 man squad fair enough - but he isn't.
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