I think the Tesco scheme was further down the line, as that was funded by a private enterprise, with all the millions still needed this is a long way off yet.

Current Funding 19.1 Million, they say it will be delivered by 2012, not a chance of it happening, it would probably take one year to fill it in and demolish it, never mind building it and where would we play? VP? Pointless waste of money when we could move to VP and buy iy off Gibbs for probably less than 10 Million More Here : www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... een_light/

Current Funding 19.1 Million, they say it will be delivered by 2012, not a chance of it happening, it would probably take one year to fill it in and demolish it, never mind building it and where would we play? VP? Pointless waste of money when we could move to VP and buy iy off Gibbs for probably less than 10 Million More Here : www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... een_light/

Tesco didnt get past the yes bit as morrison put a stop to that so this scheme is further along.

At the planning permission stage, I don't recall planning permission being granted for this scheme?

Unless I missed it all we have now is the scheme that is going to be worked on, funding and planning permission will now have to be sorted out.

That's how I remember it. Tescos got planning permission from Bradford Council, but Morrissons appealed to the Sec of State and then the scheme got referred. It was at this stage that Tescos withdrew.

From what I understand of this new scheme, it hasn't got to planning permission stage as yet.

Ah yes, that bit.

To be fair, I think it was GW who was more concerned about the private company bit, although I tend to agree with him really.

As you say though, a sports club is more than that.

With that in mind, I cant wait for a similar scheme to be announced for the town of Keighley and the Cougars. The precedent being said and all that.

I remeber similar comments from people in Dewsbury and batley when the Kirklees (soon to be McAlpine and then Galpharm) Stadium plans were announced. That has not just brought extra income Kirklees' way but also given the area a sense of pride. So it shouldn't IMO be viewed a load of public cash being used to help out a private company. Leaving all the other parts of the project to one side of course.

I know given the previous false dawns that I shouldn't but I can't help feeling excited about this. I suppose we'll find out in a few months as the diggers will have to be in early next year.

Why not? - got the Cougars, KRUFC, cricket, bowls, the existing leisure centre across the road, as well a big population centre for the minority community you'd be hoping to integrate. OSV got off the ground because the Bulls did the legwork AFAIK. Has anyone in Keighley ever scoped this out. How much would KRUFC get for Uttley?

I think the nearest we've come is a reference to a new stadium in the "airedale masterplan" document.

The rugby league site combined with the cricket and bowls area is of course ideal when you take into account the vicinity of victoria hall/the leisure centre and the trunk road.

It'll never happen though, there isn't the drive though. 35 years of being in BDMC has knocked that out of people.

Plus there's the issue of the freehold on Cougar Park.

I doubt the Rugby Union club would be interested personally. I think they are happy with what they do, though you might be better informed on that front.

*bangs head on laptop*

Morrison appealed against planning permission with no substantial grounds. It was Yorkshire Co-operative ( who owned Sunwin House ) and Asda St James whose planning appeals were significantly upheld by the Secreatry of State not Morrison's.

Anyway, yes Asim is correct - that scheme had funding and planning permission granted by the Local Authority - this one has neither yet !!

According to Sporting Life the Council have signed off on the 75million Scheme One option. [urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/09/06/03/RUGBYL_Bradford.html[/url

maybe i should of read back 3 pages

I would estimate we are 5 years off completion IF there are no consultants on board, no planning permissions, no designs, no tenders & no contractors.

I thought much the same thing.

At best.

Council leaders saying it will be delivered by 2012 are naiive to the point of stupidity, if what I said is accurate.

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Why does the fact there is no 'work begins on such and such' date type statement worry me?

It seems a bit vague tbh.

Whilst this looks great news for Bradford there is a lot of funding streams to sort out to hit that 75,000,000 not sure if the time frames are doable in the current climate.

Good luck

Thanks for the details. I'd totally forgotten about the Co-op & Asda involvement.



Were the planning appeals upheld as the original plans were contrary to the overall Unitary (?) plan?







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OSV thread at top of page

Great news for us I just hope this time around everything goes right this time, it will be nice to be in a ground without getting drenched when it rains. I presume we will be playing at Valley Parade again ?

Most probably

Hey at least this time it reached the BBC Sport pages.

this scheme seams to have a lot more backing and doesnt involve stepping on anyone elses over inflated feet (morrisons asda co-op etc etc.)

Fingers Crossed

So what exactly are the next steps?

I have no knowledge of the scheme or the procedures the council has in place for employing consultants or contractors but some indication of what is usually involved & why there is no chance of it being ready for 2012;
Advertise in the Euroepean Journal for expressions of interest from architects, engineers etc interetsed in the scheme.
Send out a pre-qulaifcation questionnaire to all applying.
Read through the hundreds (& there will be) of responses, score them all in accordance with pre-published criteria, shortlist.
Send out invitations to tender to shortlisted consultants.
Read through numerous 3" thick submissions, each going to hundreds of pages, score them all etc.
Arrange interviews for all disciplines.
Interview.
Notify all unsuccessful consultants, giving them time to legally challenge the decision if any of them feel they have been dismissed unfairly.
After that appoint consultants.
Prepare schemes.
Cost.
Value engineer back to budget. Repeatedly.
Submit planning application.
Decide on procurement strategy for appointing contrcators.
Advertise project in European Journal for contractors (any in Europe can submit).
Go through the same process as for consultants.
Get tenders.
Value engineer.
Value engineer.
Redesign.
Appeal against onerous planning conditions/refusal.
Value engineer redesign.
Talk to favoured contractor.
Redesign.
Argue for a year over costs of 'provisional' items.
Start on site.
Discover asbestos & other contaminants in ground.
Stop job.
Notify HSE (14 days each time).
Remove contaminants.
Value engineer as already over budget.
Contractor goes into liquidation.
Retender.
Repeat above.
Appoint new contractor.
.............
Complete in 2020 with the popular side only half covered & portakbins for a hotel.

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