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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Who is this "we" that could just relegate teams, and why are you sure the Bulls fans would be much happier with your idea?
To be "happier", you'd have to be "happy" to begin with. Where the fsck would you find these happy Bulls fans? I haven't seen a happy Bulls fan in about 5 years!'"
' We ' being the sport of RL
Then its about time you lowered your happiness levels, I'm sure when you start winning again next year and the prospect of replacing Wakey or HKR in SL beckons then some of you will start feeling ' happy ' again, if you dont, then tough, you wont deserve to get back up
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"No, it's not completely impossible. But I'd bet good money that if neither Bradford or London are promoted back into SL at the end of next season, as they're the one's with the parachute payments and most likely to be the ones in the mix, then you won't see any team promoted while this system is in place.
It's simply the RFL's way of bringing back P&R without really bringing it back.'"
Fair enough, dump you down with us and shut the door, I'm sure that'll make you delirious
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| Quote ="Starbug"some of you will start feeling ' happy ' again, if you dont, then tough, you wont deserve to get back up'"
I think I've found the club's psychologist.
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| Quote ="Starbug"' We ' being the sport of RL '"
As the Bulls and their fans are part of the sport of RL, "we" don't think so.
Quote ="Starbug"Then its about time you lowered your happiness levels, '"
Difficult not to whenever I see you've posted again
Quote ="Starbug"I'm sure when you start winning again next year and the prospect of replacing Wakey or HKR in SL beckons then some of you will start feeling ' happy ' again, if you dont, then tough, you wont deserve to get back up'"
And what we "deserve" is relevant to getting back up how, exactly? What if we get back up, but due to inadequate happiness levels, don't deserve to? What then? Eh?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"As the Bulls and their fans are part of the sport of RL, "we" don't think so.
Difficult not to whenever I see you've posted again
And what we "deserve" is relevant to getting back up how, exactly? What if we get back up, but due to inadequate happiness levels, don't deserve to? What then? Eh?'"
Oooh look FA going all ' smokey ' on me
I'd suggest the Bulls change their run out music to ' jilted John ' given the levels of self pity displayed on this board, it really is quite pathetic, so given your fragile nature I'll leave you to it, god forbid any of us mere mortals actually beat the Bulls next year, the skriking we'd hear would be unbearable
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| No. I think I would need to see peer-reviewed, certified happiness audit data over a 2 year cycle before I could accept any conclusions based on our happiness, or otherwise. Sorry
On the other hand, there is a depression scoring system called PHQ-9 which has widespread use.
Which to use....
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| Quote ="Starbug"I'd suggest the Bulls change their run out music to ' jilted John ' given the levels of self pity displayed on this board, it really is quite pathetic, '"
Self pity? Nah, you'd be hard pressed to find a more stoic and resilient bunch.
Quote ="Starbug"so given your fragile nature '"
been called a lot of things but "fragile"? Erm...
Quote ="Starbug"I'll leave you to it, '"
You won't, you love it on here. Where else can you have a sensible convo?
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| I see the level of banter and trolling has gone the way of our performance on the pitch . Looking forward to seeing it improve from tomorrow.
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| So. Super league is expanding to 24 clubs next season, split into 2 divisions, SL1 & SL2.
There has been an increased funding from sky to support this format. Does anyone know much detail about the funding split? 2/3 to SL1 & 1/3 to SL2? for example.
Football funding is proportional to your final league position. RL has always gone for equitable funding. No mention of changes to this in any releases so far?
What will happen to voting structure? Just the 12 SL1 clubs voting on changes which affect all 24 SL clubs?
Or will all 24 clubs get a vote on SL matters?
I assume this has all been considered at Red Hall, but just not released yet....
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| Some people with vested interests may wish to push this as an expansion of SL. It isnt.
It has had to be forced through using bribery and politicking. Its Nigel Woods attempts at saving his job by pretending to giving the lower league clubs what they wanted, the illusion of SL, and the lower SL clubs what they want, free money. Nigel Woods name is mud with a big portion of SL clubs who have given him enough rope to hang himself. Because as much as he has tried to remove all responsibility from himself so he can blame others for his failing it wont work for ever, or even a long time.
In the next 5 years when his dumbass system supported by dumbasses and myopic self interest will fail because of the clear and obvious failings in it as it has everywhere else it has been used.
It will be bye-bye Mr Wood and his not my fault guv style of leadership, the drawbridge will be properly pulled up and giving clubs incapable of sustaining an SL place, an SL place will find its correct place at the bottom of our list of priorities.
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| Quote ="Highlander"So. Super league is expanding to 24 clubs next season, split into 2 divisions, SL1 & SL2.
There has been an increased funding from sky to support this format. Does anyone know much detail about the funding split? 2/3 to SL1 & 1/3 to SL2? for example.
Football funding is proportional to your final league position. RL has always gone for equitable funding. No mention of changes to this in any releases so far?
What will happen to voting structure? Just the 12 SL1 clubs voting on changes which affect all 24 SL clubs?
Or will all 24 clubs get a vote on SL matters?
I assume this has all been considered at Red Hall, but just not released yet....'"
The only reference to SL 2 is on here, next season you'll be playing the Championship
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Some people with vested interests may wish to push this as an expansion of SL. It isnt.
It has had to be forced through using bribery and politicking. Its Nigel Woods attempts at saving his job by pretending to giving the lower league clubs what they wanted, the illusion of SL, and the lower SL clubs what they want, free money. Nigel Woods name is mud with a big portion of SL clubs who have given him enough rope to hang himself. Because as much as he has tried to remove all responsibility from himself so he can blame others for his failings, in the next 5 years when his dumbass system supported by dumbasses and myopic self interest will fail because of the clear and obvious failings in it, It will be bye-bye Mr Wood, the drawbridge will be properly pulled up and giving clubs incapable of sustaining an SL place, an SL place will find its correct place at the bottom of our list of priorities.'"
For years I've been suggesting Mr Wood was incompetant, and for years you've been defending him, now all of a sudden he's a dumbass
Lets not forget it was the SL clubs who voted this through including Leeds
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| Quote ="Starbug"icon_lol.gif For years I've been suggesting Mr Wood was incompetant, and for years you've been defending him, now all of a sudden he's a dumbass
Lets not forget it was the SL clubs who voted this through including Leeds'"
Yes, because the Championship clubs had no say what so ever
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Yes, because the Championship clubs had no say what so ever
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Explain ' say ' ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"icon_lol.gif For years I've been suggesting Mr Wood was incompetant, and for years you've been defending him, now all of a sudden he's a dumbass'" and yet Nigel Wood hasnt been in charge of the RFL 'for years' this will be his 2nd full season in charge. Weird huh.
Quote Lets not forget it was the SL clubs who voted this through including Leeds'"
Except they didnt did they.
The SL clubs voted on reducing the size of the league to allow the new structure and only then after Nigel Wood said the new structure would be put in place regardless as the SL clubs only controlled the number of clubs in the league not how they got there,
and also only after walking out of the first meeting so that there wasnt sufficient quorum and publicly making their feelings known,
and only after they were bribed with free money
and actually only 12 voted as Bradford werent given a vote, and last minute politicking convinced Les Catalans to abstain.
and actually despite being announced as unanimous it is public knowledge only 7 voted in favour (including Wakefield who were represented by Kath Hetherington who was 'recommended' as a consultant to them by the RFL) and 5 against.
Yeah, lets not forget just how in favour the SL clubs were.
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| Quote ="Starbug":1k129o5qExplain ' say ' ?'" :1k129o5q
:1k129o5qSAY (SPEAK) /seɪ/ (said, said)
to pronounce words or sounds, to express a thought, opinion, or suggestion, or to state a fact or instruction
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| Quote ="Starbug"Explain ' say ' ?'" voting 15-1 in favour of the RFL decision to implement the new structure in July 2013. Sheffield voted against.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"and yet Nigel Wood hasnt been in charge of the RFL 'for years' this will be his 2nd full season in charge. Weird huh.
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I said incompetant, I didnt mention being in charge of the RFL
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"
Except they didnt did they.
and actually only 12 voted as Bradford werent given a vote, and last minute politicking convinced Les Catalans to abstain.
and actually despite being announced as unanimous it is public knowledge only 7 voted in favour '"
So 7 out of 12 voted for it, and you say they didnt
That sounds like a majority vote to me
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| Quote ="Starbug"I said incompetant, I didnt mention being in charge of the RFL'"
He wasnt an incompetent accountant. When Richard Lewis kept him in line he did an ok job even if he did have some silly ideas.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So 7 out of 12 voted for it, and you say they didnt
That sounds like a majority vote to me'"
You think me saying 7 clubs voted for it was me saying 7 clubs didnt. Then you are an idiot
7 of 14 sounds like a majority? Then you are an idiot.
SL clubs didnt vote for it, some of them did. Not even a majority of them did.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"SAY
verb [T (SPEAK) /seɪ/ (said, said)
to pronounce words or sounds, to express a thought, opinion, or suggestion, or to state a fact or instruction'"
That isnt how you meant it though is it, you were suggesting they in some way instigated it, or had forced it into happening
MR Wood put it to the clubs including the extra financial input, it was hardly surprising they voted for it, when's the last time the SL clubs voted against getting more cash?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"You think me saying 7 clubs voted for it was me saying 7 clubs didnt. Then you are an idiot
7 of 14 sounds like a majority? Then you are an idiot.
SL clubs didnt vote for it, some of them did. Not even a majority of them did.'"
12 clubs voted, 7 voted for it, that is a majority
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| Quote ="Starbug"12 clubs voted, 7 voted for it, that is a majority
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Inspired. I think you genuinely believe you just made a good point.
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