I'm seriously worried about our medical staff, it's always seems to take our players far longer to recover from injury than other clubs.

I think it's more a case of the club keeping quiet on the severity of the injuries, which is understandable, but very annoying!!

I said that a few years ago in regards to Deacon and Morrison.

Starting to sound like a broken record at the minute aren't we? I'm getting 2010 flashbacks already.....

We can comment whenever we like. I said Crookes wouldnt make it a few years ago and he's still no closer to breaking through. From what Ive seen of Cain he doesnt look all that fantastic IMO, Not to the level some people talk about him anyway.

I'm not so sure about that O'Brian kid aswell.

Morrison was a freak - he always returned quicker than expected. His injuries were always pretty severe too, not just "hamstring strains".

Kearney
Ah Van
Platt
Sykes
Raynor
Addy
L'estrange
Hargreaves
Diskin
Lynch
Walker
Whitehead
Elima

Koppy
Olbsion
Sibbit
Scruton

So he was Badger, my mistake.

With your obvious superior ability to spot talent, why aren't you working as an RL scout?

Thanks for your acknowledgement.
Dont want to be.

O'Brien is 17. How can you say he doesn't look good enough for SL at that age?


Cain is 18 and has looked promising. He played well in the u20s last season. Give him a couple of years and he'll be playing SL regularly.

To you, sarcasm is like an aeroplane isn't it?

I wouldn't be too concerned. There's lots of different factors to take nito account with injuries and I think our medical staff will know what they're doing. I'd rather wait an extra 2 games to have a player back rather than risk aggravating the injury further.

Errr, how cant you? Did Sam Burgess look good enough for SL at that age?

If either are 1st team regulars in a couple of years I'll eat my hat.

Both far to small and no abilities that sets them apart from the rest IMO.

Lillycrop, another that you thought was nailed on to break through yet seems to have fallen by the wayside.

What does his tweet say, cant update it from link. Presume something about Herbert and not good news?

Is it?

Sam Burgess is a FREAK. Even compared to his brothers, who aren't on the small side.

You're clearly talking out of your

as you constantly show no comprehension of player development both in terms of skills and physical growth.

For the last few seasons our fitness has paled in comparison to the clubs competing at the top...this coupled with the fact that we have managed to pick up a fair few injuries that are generally fairly serious I have also had major doubts about the people in charge of fitness and the medical staff. Geoff Evans may have been part of st helens successful tenure but he doesnt seem to be working for us. last season and so far at the start of this I wouldnt say we looked fit enough to last 80 mins and really it is not good enough. Until the team can last or play the full 80 we won't get back to winning ways. I am not saying that we are out of contention already because we have had a very difficult start to the season but I would definitely say that this weekend needs to be a much fuller performance from the team!

Who cares what he is, he clearly showed he was good enough for SL at such a young age as many do and many dont. That is how I can say I think somebody wont make it.

We'll see. Neither will ever be big enough or skillful enough.

So no half backs again, oh joy.
Still at least we will get a nice day out.

Fine. Show me 20 other 17 year olds who have same physical development as Sam Burgess did at that age.

Its not all about physical development.
Youve got to have some attribute that makes you stand out from the rest, neither CS or AO'B do IMO.

We'll see anyway. Neither will make it IMO.

lucky for Bradford your opinion isn't the one that counts as you've clearly no idea.

Unlucky for Bradford theyll have wasted thousands trying to develop lads into SL players that more than likely will fall short along the way.

Think you're being a bit harsh on O'Brien, looks a very good prospect to me.

Don't get drawn in. He has no clue what he's talking about.