Some photos of the work continuing at Odsal on the star trax Facebook page. Barriers fabricated and painted, to be fair they look pretty decent.

Yes I know when York are moving into a superb stadium, it looks pathetic us talking about painted barriers. But we are where we are and it looks like people are working very hard on the stadium to make the best of the situation and at least it gets us back in Bradford.

I think they are doing a great job in such a short time its looking good we need to be back in Bradford we will never get a new stadium just hope the rent is a lot cheaper this time

I'm not particularly happy playing second fiddle to a sport that has to rip up bits of our pitch, and if I thought we were never going to get a proper place of our own then I'd probably drift away now if I'm honest.

We'll not get a proper place of our own unless we get stupidly rich new owners. The council are skint and will be for decades to come.

The Bulls are looking into purchasing the sub-lease from the RFL, if it comes off we will be main lease holder and pay the peppercorn rent to RFL, won't be second fiddle to anyone, The Bulls need Stock Cars and Stock Cars need the Bulls.

If the club gets the lease then it'll have to share the maintenance costs with the stock car bods but without the RFL contribution.

Remember from 1986-1996 the club had all maintenance costs covered by the council and even with that and the contribution from speedway and stock cars they still struggled for money.

The only way out of this is to build a new ground but that's not happening.

That would be for the best. The RFL have been damaged as much as we have by them being our landlords. If we can pay them enough for them to save face and depart that would be best for all involved. Then just the council and the Bulls in the direct freehold/leasehold relationship - see if there is a chance for any investment from any of the prospective owners that the RFL have binned off over the past 8 years. With the stockcars paying a small rental to the Bulls.

Isn't it the rates that's the biggest outgoing? Owning the long leasehold won't change anything about that.

I know I'm finding myself becoming a little fixated with the corners of the pitch. But it feels like a visual reminder of how god awful we are as an entity that we have gone back to that farcical situation. I wonder if technology is better to reinstate them in a competent way on game day. Seems to me that Bradford fans have retained their emotional ties to Odsal when mine have long gone. I've said it before I want the club to come out and say what their vision is for where we play. Do they want Odsal as our permanent home? If so what will they do to it to make it fit for this century? And if its a stop-gap what other options are being looked at. It's the almost complete silence from the owners that is peeing me off.

I can see your concerns. Is there a single stadium in this country that shares football/RU team with a stockcar track? We know what the compromises are - corners, fans being about an additional 12m away from the pitch. Apart from getting some rental money are there any advantages?
In an ideal world the council gives Odsal to the stockcars permanently and Bulls have a purpose built stadium over the road to themselves.
Third option is Horsfall - but again the fans are further away from the pitch, access and parking are poor, would need more stands.

With some players looking like they play in the 1980s it's only right the stadium looks like it's from that era too.

Rfl didn’t contribute to maintenance costs. They paid the peppercorn rent and got commercial rent from us and we were still responsible for maintenance costs. At least we’re sharing those costs with the stock cars now, likewise you would expect Rates bill to be split between both users as well.

I'm sure I saw a press release from the stock car people saying the renovation costs had been split between then, us and the RFL. Oh well.

I was talking about the maintenance costs under our lease with RFL. Afaik RFL are contributing towards the the renovation costs. Haven't heard anything as to whether they will contribute towards maintenance going forwards.

Right so the millstone remains around the neck...

This feels like the last season for me.

Paid more for a family season ticket than I would have at St Helen's to sit in a hole, watching a mid table team still living off past glories with about as much chance of getting back to the promised land as Vic Rangers...

Giants charge £99 don’t they for an adult ST? What’s the club meant to do, reduce from this pro rate in line with quality of rugby?

Other clubs have backers or other income streams that allow subsidised tickets, we don’t and either lose money playing at dewsbury from corporate or lost supporters or move back to odsal and accept it comes with some cost. People still keep saying we need a brand spanking new stadium but everyone knows this but there isn’t one and one is unlikely so do we throw the towel in or keep trying?

What do you honestly expect the club to do?. A new Stadium ain't going to happen we aren't as lucky as other clubs who have had council support.

The club tried the cheap ticket option and is one of the reasons we are where we are. We don't have a rich backer, you don't get Halifax,Fev fans complaining about the situation they are in, they get on with it, why should we be any different?

Agree with all that but there are huge issues with the eventual ownership of the club and how that came to be. This season is utterly crucial and as a fanbase we would need to see some significant investment in time/money/other resources in moving the club forward on and off the field for any of it to make sense. It boils down to one simple question; Why is Nigel Wood here?

but hopefully now a smaller millstone if its shared with stock cars.

someone mentioned earlier in thread that club are trying to buy lease back from RFL. Guess that would classify as significant investment but not sure what benefit would be as would just mean we wouldn't be paying commercial rent to RFL ( but instead shelling out approx 10yrs rent in one hit) and instead be back paying peppercorn rent to council. Either there's some long term plan or we're back to someone wanting to get their hands on odsal for some unspecified payoff which seems unlikely as the Stockcar lot wouldn't have invested amount they have without having a longer term lease agreed.

The whole mystery around the ground, and the lack of any kind of proper engagement from Nigel Wood is the main "turn off" for me. There are so many important unanswered questions that are fundamental to the future of the club (not to mention those questions about how we got here) yet nobody is prepared to front up. We're just expected to pay our admission and pretend none of this other stuff matters. I want to get behind the team but I can't help but feel it will all fall apart again under the current regime. The best we can hope for is just to plod along. Hardly inspiring.

Workington is the only one which springs to mind.

To be honest, much as I like both Stock cars and speedway, it doesn't look quite like I imagined 21st century RL would look like. As a rugby club we're going backwards imo and it's hard not to feel a bit dispirited by it.

The ground is no different to what it was in the mid 80s (parts of it are actually worse) and it wasn't good enough then. That's an indictment of all parties involved.

Be honest would be good. Why are we charging more than most SL clubs but seeing phuq-all return for it?

We were lucky but Morrison's screwed that completely (proud to say I no longer shop there nor will I ever) but how long am I expected to stump up BMW money on an Austin Maxi just because we are told the MIA salesperson is gonna put go faster stripes on it?

It's taken a very long time to wear me down but tell me we have to go to Dewsbury or we are finished and I am fine with that but not so much with the immediate 180.

Honesty. Nige.... Where are you and what's the plan?????

Fev wiped the bloody floor with us last weekend, Fax have more or less admitted they have no ambition for SL any more, if that's the case for us then tell us and lets get a suitable ground share in place, lets drop the pretense and charge/act like a permanent Championship club like Dewsbury and Batley who are still streets ahead of us in plans and ground ownership