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| Quote ="Nothus"Hmm, I actually don't have a problem with that obstruction call. If it was the other way around I'd want the penalty. Some of the outrage on twitter about it (especially from Gledhill) was way ott.'"
OTT?
The sickening comment is in relation to the effort and character showed by Bradford and leaving the game with nothing. I've seen the incident again and the wrong decision was made IMO.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Im going to ignore the result and post just a few general observations
At 12 nill i thought we were done. Unbelievable effort to get back in the game.
Oakes was great against a top drawer super league let alone championship centre.
Connor Farrell, what a tackle!! His best game so far.
Mickey Wood, outstanding, best game in a bulls shirt.
Mini looked back to his old self, may be harsh but i think hes been slow to get going. Great goal kicker as well, who knew!!
Storton has to be in the 17 every week. The kid is set for big things
One little grumble, dummy half service. 2 many balls on the deck
Proud as puch today with the performance. Considering so many men missing we are only going to get better.
Same again next week please'"
I don't disagree with any of that.
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| I think Mick Gledhill is doing a good job with his commentry. I feel that he describes what is happening on the field as it is happening which is what i want from a commentator. He can be a bit excitable at times ,which is understandable , as he's commentating on the club he supports. I can't comment on his twitter posts as i've not read any..
I listened to the interview with JK on radio Leeds after Mick's programme finished. He was happy with the ref today and blamed the bad call on the touch judge.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Interested to hear why? The defender hasn’t even made it back onto his own line and back onside for a kick off.
Even though Owens was offside he still wouldn’t of got to Minchella given how deep in the line he was and he was clearly on the outside edge of the man so personally I think it was a very tough call given the above.'"
I just think it's a consistent call when you look at all the other instances of obstruction we've had in SL games so far this year. Owens might be offside at the ptb but the ref hasn't penalised him for it so you have to play on (how many times are players offside at the ptb, dozens?).
Our two dummy runners walk a few yards forward and then stop in the defensive line. This is the key point and the reason why these calls are often given as obstruction. If you're going to make a dummy run you need to continue your run past the defensive line so that you don't interfere with play.
You might be right and Owens might not have been able to reach him anyway, but as soon as his run was impeded - even only slightly - then it's going to be flagged up as obstruction.
If that game is on Sky, the video ref rules out the try every single time.
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Quote ="Hopebull"I think Mick Gledhill is doing a good job with his commentry. I feel that he describes what is happening on the field as it is happening which is what i want from a commentator. He can be a bit excitable at times ,which is understandable , as he's commentating on the club he supports. I can't comment on his twitter posts as i've not read any..
I listened to the interview with JK on radio Leeds after Mick's programme finished. He was happy with the ref today and blamed the bad call on the touch judge.'"
Here's my post-match interview with John Kear.
https://audioboom.com/posts/7204488-bbl ... es-vikings
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I listened to the interview with JK on radio Leeds after Mick's programme finished. He was happy with the ref today and blamed the bad call on the touch judge.'"
Here's my post-match interview with John Kear.
https://audioboom.com/posts/7204488-bbl ... es-vikings
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| Minchella’s try was a try in my view. The Widnes player is offside and even if you disregard this no Bulls player intentionally moves to obstruct him. His exaggerated dive show a man desperate to win a penalty because they were shot to bits in defence.
However, even if you think we were robbed, it’s worth remembering we were on the right end of an equally dodgy decision at home to Fev when Chisholm knocked on yet the ref gave the try. These things even out I suppose!
Amazing defensive effort again by the team, we did seem a bit camped in our own end at times but held pretty firm against a good attacking side. I think we might get a bit of confidence from the way we attacked too. With Lilley back in the side the kicking game would be much improved and we really missed that from him.
I had us down to lose by 14 or more so it’s good performance from us given the players missing. I feel much more confident about playing Leigh next.
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| Quote ="Nothus"I just think it's a consistent call when you look at all the other instances of obstruction we've had in SL games so far this year. Owens might be offside at the ptb but the ref hasn't penalised him for it so you have to play on (how many times are players offside at the ptb, dozens?).
Our two dummy runners walk a few yards forward and then stop in the defensive line. This is the key point and the reason why these calls are often given as obstruction. If you're going to make a dummy run you need to continue your run past the defensive line so that you don't interfere with play.
You might be right and Owens might not have been able to reach him anyway, but as soon as his run was impeded - even only slightly - then it's going to be flagged up as obstruction.
If that game is on Sky, the video ref rules out the try every single time.'"
Well I can't say I watch much SL but there seems to be a lot of common sense missing from officiating nowadays so it wouldn't be all that much of a surprise if this was true. I'm not sure SL is the correct comparison though, we play in the Championship and it would seem the rules are somewhat different on many areas. If you're looking for technicalities to disallow a try then I'm sure you make a case but common sense would say that defender had no chance of stopping that try and even less if he'd been onside. I would hope with the benefit of replay a SL ref would apply such common sense.
But it's been and gone and we have to take the rough with the smooth, it was another improved performance. We could really do with the points this week at home though, let's hope we have a few more options at 6/7 available. Should be a real humdinger of contest with Leigh.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"
I had us down to lose by 14 or more so it’s good performance from us given the players missing. I feel much more confident about playing Leigh next.'"
I actually fancied us to get a result before Lilley was ruled out. In fact I had 20 notes on the result at 6/1 so I was even more cheesed off with the controversial end!
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| Can't comment on the 'offside try' or the obstruction as I was at the wrong end, but I was proud of the performance overall.
The two 'halves' played well and the major loss from not having our regular halves, for me was the kicking, where we seemed to give the ball back far too near our own goal line too many times. How the Widnes attacker who grabbed Fogging-Johnson round the neck whilst he was in the air didn't 'walk' is beyond me, disgraceful decision. Speaking of DFJ I'm more impressed each time I see him, he can't be much more than 60Kg but he's a real bundle of energy.
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| Agree with Bulliac on his DFJ point - his two performances have been very solid so far and he's good value for his inclusion.
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| Bull mania wrote:
The guys an embarrassment and I cringe with the stuff he puts out as it. He makes himself, and the club and our fan base look bad others associate him as being our club and fanbase.
It’s a shame he is promoted by the club in the way he is and like others have stated he is not the voice of the fans but thinks he is. I wish the club would gag him or remove him he is a total embarrassment and if the club are happy at one of their representatives peddling the rubbish he does then it gives another example of how badly the management of our club is
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| How are the club supposed to ‘remove him’? I was under the impression he works freelance for the Pulse etc and not directly involved with the club? Some of his social media posts are a tad cringeworthy at times but I think his commentary is pretty good, especially for local radio.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"How are the club supposed to ‘remove him’? I was under the impression he works freelance for the Pulse etc and not directly involved with the club? Some of his social media posts are a tad cringeworthy at times but I think his commentary is pretty good, especially for local radio.'"
If he is that good how come he’s never progressed up the commentary ladder? It shows how good he his when other Rugby League media people lam-blast him for his tweets and comments
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| Quote ="YorkshireRider" It shows how good he his when other Rugby League media people lam-blast him for his tweets and comments'"
To be fair, the media don't help. Not one mentioned JK's comments of "it's RL, it happens" they just seemed to have concentrated on. Gledhill comments. This has become a problem in that some nobody is getting more media coverage/attention than our coach FFS.
I dunno, I'm fed up of the guy. Still not forgiven him for his bevaviour in our admin . Through his commentary, he's managed to get himself a platform and unfortunately through it, He's starting to harm the image of the club as for some bizarre reason, some think he's a spokesperson for the Bulls.
Sorry for derailing thread but I'm fed up of him. He just never learns.
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| Quote ="YorkshireRider"If he is that good how come he’s never progressed up the commentary ladder? It shows how good he his when other Rugby League media people lam-blast him for his tweets and comments'"
Hasn’t he progressed? Thought he started off doing commentary for the partially sighted/blind or was it local hospital? Then BCB which I don’t think many people listen to other than match days and now the Pulse which I imagine gets considerably more listeners. Look I’m not in his fan club and I agree some of his tweets during admin were poor but I think some of the criticism is a little OTT. I think he’s just very passionate about Bradford and it probably tints his view on things at times.
I think if we’re concerned about how the club is viewed we probably have bigger issues to tackle first.
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| Leave the guy alone FFS. He’s passionate about the club and his commentary is very good
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| The named person under criticism is a user of this forum, so I would politely request that we draw a line under it now please.
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| My girlfriend was having an affair with Mick behind my back. She was using it as a way to get close to Craig Harrison as she was easily wooed by his fame and money and liked the idea of the different way of life that’s Doncaster afforded.
I found out and shopped her to the Uk border agency and she’s now in a detention centre awaiting deportation back to cambodia.
Plenty more fish in the catalogue.
Anyway that’s for another forum.
Having watched the highlights back my first suspicions have been proved right imo. We were robbed. You win some you lose some.
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| Having watched the game on TV I'm a bit more disappointed with the game. Two poor decisions from the same touch judge cost us the win. If either had gone our way we'd probably have won and the offside for their second try was a dead set cert. I know you win some and you lose some, and I fully accept the odd questionable decision has gone our way over the years, but those two were game changing - and definitely cost us the points.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Having watched the game on TV I'm a bit more disappointed with the game. Two poor decisions from the same touch judge cost us the win. If either had gone our way we'd probably have won and the offside for their second try was a dead set cert. I know you win some and you lose some, and I fully accept the odd questionable decision has gone our way over the years,
but those two were game changing - and definitely cost us the points.'"
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| Quote ="jayb"Steve Ganson...... it still angers me'"
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| Naaa it’s got to be Russell Smith!
Ganson cost us two points Smith cost us a title!
Back on Mick has anyone seen him? He left his girdle in Minh’s car after one of their meet ups at Birstall Ikea.
I’m selling it (the car not Mick’s girdle) so he can have it back!
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| Quote ="Betsy Bulls"Leave the guy alone FFS. He’s passionate about the club and his commentary is very good'"
Thank you for the kind words and to everyone listening on the Pulse this year. Myself and the team appreciate you all tuning in. The listening figures and hours for the Bradford Bulls games we have done so far make for impressive reading.
It's not just the Bradford Bulls I'm passionate about but the whole sport of Rugby League.
Unfortunately, some people have cancerous agendas and really need to learn to grow up from taking pathetic swipes on message boards.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Thank you for the kind words and to everyone listening on the Pulse this year. Myself and the team appreciate you all tuning in. The listening figures and hours for the Bradford Bulls games we have done so far make for impressive reading.
It's not just the Bradford Bulls I'm passionate about but the whole sport of Rugby League.
Unfortunately, some people have cancerous agendas and really need to learn to grow up from taking pathetic swipes on message boards.'"
The commentary is very good and I wouldnt be without it for games I can’t get to.
The full 80 minutes is a good listen to as well. A real insight into the sport.
Now do you want this girdle back or what?
I know you’re ignoring me but Minh is gone you’ll have to move on.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Quote ="MicktheGled"Thank you for the kind words and to everyone listening on the Pulse this year. Myself and the team appreciate you all tuning in. The listening figures and hours for the Bradford Bulls games we have done so far make for impressive reading.
It's not just the Bradford Bulls I'm passionate about but the whole sport of Rugby League.
Unfortunately, some people have cancerous agendas and really need to learn to grow up from taking pathetic swipes on message boards.'"
The commentary is very good and I wouldnt be without it for games I can’t get to.
The full 80 minutes is a good listen to as well. A real insight into the sport.
Now do you want this girdle back or what?
I know you’re ignoring me but Minh is gone you’ll have to move on.'"
I don’t know what you’re on about what is alleged to have taken place in Birstall Ikea? Thank you for the kind words.
John Bastian is on the Full Eighty Minutes tomorrow 5pm-7pm
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