Getting ed off that people are fuc*ing up this country like this. I'm 16, far from well off but I wouldn't dream of doing the crap they are, attacking a children's hospital and setting fore to everything. Generally giving youth a bad name. I swear to god if I was down there I would literally kill the rioters. Or whoever orchastrated it. Put it this way I'd manually castrate them myself without the use of any numbing medicine. And the police?? Why the hell arn't they using excessive force? They shold be beating the crap out of the rioters, Imo they violated their human rights when putting others in danger. Would be a farce if the army had to get invoved but rather have them atm than the cops.

There's been no evidence of an attack on a childrens hospital - don't believe everything you read.

I understand your anger, but people should be careful before certain actions are taken, otherwise further more damaging consequneces arise.

The biggest problem is discipline. Kids learn early in school that they can get away with doing anything at all, without a finger being laid on them. A few years later, some spotty youth can play "Mr hard man" by blatantly walking up to a line of 50 riot cops and bricking them, safe in the bizarre knowledge that they will just let him get on with it.

It is hard to draw an acceptable line of physical restraint for teachers - and many don't want one - but equally I find it hard to stomach that a battalion of heavily armed police let such a guy do what he likes. It is no use saying they can't arrest him, as that would take the arresting officers out of the action - these are special situations and some form of emergency powers should exist to permit the apprehension of such scrotes.

Forget arresting the time for that is done, gone. Now is the time for force to be used. If people arn't scared of police in this situation then there's something wrong. Action needs to be taken and quick before innocent people get hurt. And tbh Im all for bringing the cane and other measures into schools but then you get the pussies who don't want it then act all 10 men.

There's terror on the streets of London. Lets send the super dooper army in to stop it. Oh wait, they can't even do that in a third world country let alone the UK.

forgot the taliban are people with pitch forks etc, they do have the same number of weapon systems as us and are actually trained to a high degree. it wouldnt of been a third world country if the russians had not of invaded have you seen films and pictures before they came it was a up and coming country full of promise. Pluse wouldnt this country look like a hell hole if it had been at war for over 40 years thats all a lot of people know in afghanistan now war!

Have a little respect for the guys doing the work out there. We do a good job under dificult circumstances and conditions.

I realise I'm putting myself at risk by admitting my part in the problems just starting up in Leeds but here goes....

So far today in the office I have taken someone's apple, a box of 'heroes' and some flapjack. All have been replaced with a polite post-it note explaining that I have looted them.

I blame the teachers.

Panic on the streets of London
Panic on the streets of Birmingham
I wonder to myself
Could life ever be sane again ?
The Leeds side-streets that you slip down
I wonder to myself
Hopes may rise on the Grasmere
But Honey Pie, you're not safe here
So you run down
To the safety of the town
But there's Panic on the streets of Carlisle
Dublin, Dundee, Humberside
I wonder to myself

Morrissey is Nostradamus.
I think Hull, Carlisle and all better look out....

true, ive seen the afghans in tanks, copters n jets. Im sure youll get ur respect from others

Oy! That BMW dealership is just down the road from my house, don't you dare tell me I live as near to L***s as you can get....some things are actionable you know!!



It is close to Pudsey mind, and Pudsey is in the L***s council area but it's oooh, three or four miles from the place itself.

OMG sorry...I should have realised!







How can I live with the shame?

I fear I must now do the only honourable thing. I might be gone some time...

Bulls4Champs2010 doesn't understand that Tanks, Copters and Jets don't always win. You have to evaluate the situation and assess wether they can be used. Don't be a prick by thinking you know stuff when you clearly don't. End of the day our soldiers are human and can be killed easily. They are not invincible and tbh majority of Al-Queda have been to Oxford, Cambidge etc so we arn't up against farmers or civilians, in fact this is probably the most dangerous enemy since the Nazi's. Show some respect.

Majority of al qaeda have been to oxford and cambridge? lol. okey cokey. what planet are you on?

Bin Laden and at least 3 of his 'leaders' went to Oxford. Who knows how many other of the leaders went to Cambridge. I was referring to the Heirarchy

so u dont actualy know who or how many of the al qaeda heirachy were educated in brit uni system?

Considering that neither of us know how many people are in the al qaeda heirachy then no obviously not.

At the risk of being suckered into your wind deliberate comments intended to provoke a reaction, do you mind me asking what your profession is?

Bit of a wild comment then bull boy. boxer, im a student.

Neither am I with their continued use of the term UK riots. It isn't. It is English riots.

In Toxteth, Brixton and Bradford they could blame the immigrants. Would be nice to see the English media point the finger at their own for once in the absense of someone to blame.

Scotland has no rioting, neither has Wales.

That said, we could do with some looting. I quite fancy a new bike and a television set.

It seems it's not really kicked off at all in Leeds either. Seems to be London, Birmingham and Liverpool mostly.

Not that wild. I was just wondering what contribution/sacrifice you had made for your country that made you feel that you were in a position to be critical of our armed forces. We may not all agree on the politics but I still believe the guys out there deserve a little more respect than you seem willing to give.

I'm struggling to understand why anyone would 'want' to have to deal with those yobs down in London and the attacks the Police are under. If you're that keen, perhaps you have found your perfect job?

Seen as though you asked bully, i was in the royal engineers.