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| Quote ="Tiger Beer"Nobby caused the problems with the Harris and maybe others. Steve just happens to be the one that has to sort it out.'"
And as the saying goes you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear!
I think that the current set up are doing the best they can with what's available.
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| I was wondering how long it would take for Goebbels to turn up.
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| Quote ="Asim"
a clear lack of discipline, leadership and structure '"
Are you talking about Wigan today?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Are you talking about Wigan today?
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I couldn't give a flying f*ck about Wigan today.
Papering over our cracks by pinpointing other teams isn't on my agenda, and shouldn't be on anyone elses.
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| Quote ="Asim"I couldn't give a flying f*ck about Wigan today.
Papering over our cracks by pinpointing other teams isn't on my agenda, and shouldn't be on anyone elses.'"
This is a thread about bringing Noble back.. who is currently coaching the Wigan side.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"This is a thread about bringing Noble back.. who is currently coaching the Wigan side.'"
My comments, that you quoted, were nothing to do with bringing Noble back - and it isn't a view I've expressed.
In fact in that very post I said it was unfair to compare McNamara to Noble
Threads very often move on from initial titles.
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| I suggest a look at the Stains v Pies match before making assumptions
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| Quote ="Blotto"I suggest a look at the Stains v Pies match before making assumptions'"
Yeah look at it, at least Wigan can get over the line.
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| Quote ="The Punisher..!"Yeah look at it, at least Wigan can get over the line.'"
the point is you get games like this
24/03/05 Bradford Bulls V Leeds Rhinos 12 - 42
This in our Championship Winning year, has a familiar ring to it.
A real supporter takes the pain as well as the gain, so not a lot of real ones on here then!
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| Quote ="Blotto"the point is you get games like this
24/03/05 Bradford Bulls V Leeds Rhinos 12 - 42
This in our Championship Winning year, has a familiar ring to it.
A real supporter takes the pain as well as the gain, so not a lot of real ones on here then!'"
7 wins in 18 games.
Great Stuff
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| Quote ="Blotto"A real supporter takes the pain as well as the gain, so not a lot of real ones on here then!'"
Which is what to do with posts on here?
Or is a real supporter one who sticks their head in the sand and refuses to discuss any problems?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"being honest how many of your players would get into the line up at leeds or saints? '" A few IMO...
Platt - Webb - Wellens
Evans - Smith - Gardner
Sykes - Toopi - Gidley
Hape - Senior - Talau
Tadulala - Donald - Meli
Jeffries - McGuire - Pryce
Deacon - Burrow - Long
Lynch - Leuluai - Fozzard
Newton - Diskin - Cunningham
Vagana - Peacock - Cayless
Langley - Buchanen - Gilmour
Morrison - Ellis - Wilkin
Burgess - Sinfield - Sculthorpe
Godwin - Tansey - Roby
Nero - Lauiti'iti - Flannery
Feather - Bailey - Graham
James - Scruton - Fa'asavalu
Lynch, Sykes and Burgess are clearly good enough. I also think it's fair to say that if Hape could pull his finger out, he [iwould be[/i a more dangerous centre than the somewhat ageing centres at Saints and Leeds... Some of the others such as Langley, Newton, Nero and Morrison [ishouldn't be [/itoo far away, if they played to their full potential.
I think [ion paper [/iour squad isn't too far behind those of Saints & Leeds, but the squad's not performing anything like as well as it should be.
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| Quote ="redhotjalapeno1"A few IMO...
Platt - Webb - Wellens
Evans - Smith - Gardner
Sykes - Toopi - Gidley
Hape - Senior - Talau
Tadulala - Donald - Meli
Jeffries - McGuire - Pryce
Deacon - Burrow - Long
Lynch - Leuluai - Fozzard
Newton - Diskin - Cunningham
Vagana - Peacock - Cayless
Langley - Buchanen - Gilmour
Morrison - Ellis - Wilkin
Burgess - Sinfield - Sculthorpe
Godwin - Tansey - Roby
Nero - Lauiti'iti - Flannery
Feather - Bailey - Graham
James - Scruton - Fa'asavalu
Lynch, Sykes and Burgess are clearly good enough. I also think it's fair to say that if Hape could pull his finger out, he [iwould be[/i a more dangerous centre than the somewhat ageing centres at Saints and Leeds... Some of the others such as Langley, Newton, Nero and Morrison [ishouldn't be [/itoo far away, if they played to their full potential.
I think [ion paper [/iour squad isn't too far behind those of Saints & Leeds, but the squad's not performing anything like as well as it should be.'"
I agree on form our squad is a match for any.. we just need the players and the coaching staff to work together and put the effort in.
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| Why bring back Noble I think Mac Namara is doing a sterling job My Bull fan work colleague El Tel is even threatening to leave his couch to attend a game at Odsal to show his support for Mac Namara
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| Quote ="redhotjalapeno1"A few IMO...
Platt - Webb - Wellens
Evans - Smith - Gardner
Sykes - Toopi - Gidley
Hape - Senior - Talau
Tadulala - Donald - Meli
Jeffries - McGuire - Pryce
Deacon - Burrow - Long
Lynch - Leuluai - Fozzard
Newton - Diskin - Cunningham
Vagana - Peacock - Cayless
Langley - Buchanen - Gilmour
Morrison - Ellis - Wilkin
Burgess - Sinfield - Sculthorpe
Godwin - Tansey - Roby
Nero - Lauiti'iti - Flannery
Feather - Bailey - Graham
James - Scruton - Fa'asavalu
Lynch, Sykes and Burgess are clearly good enough. I also think it's fair to say that if Hape could pull his finger out, he [iwould be[/i a more dangerous centre than the somewhat ageing centres at Saints and Leeds... Some of the others such as Langley, Newton, Nero and Morrison [ishouldn't be [/itoo far away, if they played to their full potential.
I think [ion paper [/iour squad isn't too far behind those of Saints & Leeds, but the squad's not performing anything like as well as it should be.'"
I would swap Langley for Gilmour And Deacs for Burrow, Mainly for his kicking ability, but i really cant stand Burrow.
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| You for real Ewen Norfolk?
Burrows is the finest scrum half in Super League, by miles and miles. Looks to me like he could become the best British International scrum half we've had for 15 years, or more. And I hope he does.
In fact, in his particular :20pci6yaStyle
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| Quote ="andyhullwyke"i think most of you guys are being a bit harsh on SM, ...'"
Define "most". Wouldn't you need more than one poster for that?
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| From an outsiders point of view (HKR fan), I think the reality of the fact you have recruited very poorly is not really something you have digested. Signing a bunch of lower/mid-table players will rapidly turn you into a lower/mid-table team.
You have a great front and back row when full strength, but your backs (bar Hape) are woeful and your half-backs are falling way behind SL's elite.
The man to blame for this poor recruitment is Steve McNamara and until he attracts genuine "A-list" stars, then you will find yourselves as a bottom-half side for years to come given the recruitment of sides such as Wire and Rovers...
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| Quote ="The Punisher..!"Which enterprising attacking rugby is that?'"
the enterprising attacking rugby where the ball ends up on the floor more than anywhere else when we are in possesion
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I would swap Langley for Gilmour And Deacs for Burrow, Mainly for his kicking ability, but i really cant stand Burrow.'"
i would go for Morrison over Ellis - even though he is the "wrong side of 30", IMO he is one of the best second rowers in the world, although its a hard choice as so is Ellis.
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| Quote ="konichiwa----bitches"i would go for Morrison over Ellis - even though he is the "wrong side of 30", IMO he is one of the best second rowers in the world, although its a hard choice as so is Ellis.'"
It is very close, but obviously i would be bias towards Morrison lmao.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"It is very close, but obviously i would be bias towards Morrison lmao.'"
One is a youthful Brit at the pinnacle of his career, the other is an ageing overseas quota player with his best years behind him
Easy choice.
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| Quote ="The Punisher..!"One is a youthful Brit at the pinnacle of his career, the other is an ageing overseas quota player with his best years behind him
Easy choice.'" Yes Morrison i just can't understand what all the hype is about Ellis godd defender but offers nothing attacking wise that's my oppion of him any way.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Yes Morrison i just can't understand what all the hype is about Ellis godd defender but offers nothing attacking wise that's my oppion of him any way.'"
Thats crazy redone.
Ellis is far better than Morrison.
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| Quote ="The Punisher..!"Thats crazy redone.
Ellis is far better than Morrison.'"
Asim, Ellis isn't fit to lace Morrison's boots, and you know it.
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