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| It was a good game, and well done for bringing a large and vocal contingent, made for a good atmosphere. On the penalty count it was 6-2 in your favour in the first half, probably deserved.
You looked pretty clueless in the second half and never looked like scoring, you need half backs/playmakers.......
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| Quote ="vbfg"Top 2 isn't impossible, but it requires someone else to screw up.'"
That "someone else" could well be Leigh if they continue to try & throw games away.
For the majority of today's game we were [idire[/i & at the very least [i2nd best[/i.
Out attack was lacking the killer instinct [ibarr the last 4 minutes[/i, our defence was shocking, line speed woeful & discipline abysmal, damn, Oldham & Swinton could have given us a serious scare today.
My point ?
All is [iNOT[/i lost for your boys.
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| Quote ="HAPEtobehere"I know that we have a lot of problems in attack and defence has been poor this year. But there was a noticable shift in the game after they dropped the ball over the line and it was still awarded as a try. =#FF0000How many times can Child come in and affect our games? 9 penalties to 2 in the second half where london scored all of their points (granted poor defence didn't help)'"
I'm afraid Childs DOES seem to have an influence on games in this way. He did it to us (Leigh) at Featherstone last week. 22-8 up and then we are suddenly down to eleven men. Scores level, within a few minutes. Now maybe the two did deserve yellow carding (querying ref's decision, and attempted trip) yet similar or worse offences (striking and late in with the knees) were met with benevolent smiles to the 'offenders'.
The man does have a major influence in games we have played and does seem to like the home teams. Curiously, we never get him at LSV!
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| What is clear is that with the appointment of a new coach they need to be given the job of recruitment. Whatever the reasons for the RFL putting the Ferret in position he has clearly shown his inability to pick and recruit the right players. Now that Jimmy has gone we really need a 'Ferret out' campaign.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"No point in making the 4, we're frankly rubbish and don't have a cat in hell's chance of doing anything in the Super 8s, let alone promotion. Our crazy signing policy has caught up with us, and having no scrum half at the club is the craziest of all.
We are done. A mediocre championship side and that's it. (Oh, but on loadsamoney compared with most of the teams we play).'"
We did have a scrum half but his girlfriend told him he was off back to Aus.
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| Just got back from the game. Great little ground and a good away following.
Here's my overriding thought, we simply cannot keep playing people out of position in key roles against quality opposition. We may be able to get away with it against the lower end clubs but we simply are not good enough against the better teams in this league.
I'd like to think that having at least one fit half back could have swayed the result but I'm highly doubtful. We looked so predictable and toothless in attack and that's down to having 2 forwards playing as makeshift half backs. Addy and Hargerty are grafters but they didn't have the skill to cut open the Broncos defence today. Is there nobody in the U19s that we can trial in the halves?! I'm hoping that Green and Ferres can confirm our new coach ASAP so we can begin to identify who is going to fill the void in the halves.
As for the opposition, Elliot Kear was a stand out for the Broncos today. Great support play throughout. The Broncos appear to have coached him how to attack the defensive line too. All he used to do when he played for us was run like a crab.
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| Quote ="dddooommm"
As for the opposition, Elliot Kear was a stand out for the Broncos today. Great support play throughout. The Broncos appear to have coached him how to attack the defensive line too. All he used to do when he played for us was run like a crab.'"
Seems to be a common tale. people improve drastically once they leave us.
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| Oh dear it seems we really need to get a new coach in as soon as possible. On the subject of Ferres why did the R L put him in.is it our track record & do they not trust Green. Born and bred at odsal, saw my first game in 1948, and now so disheartened
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| Quote ="tikkabull"Oh dear it seems we really need to get a new coach in as soon as possible. On the subject of Ferres why did the R L put him in.is it our track record & do they not trust Green. Born and bred at odsal, saw my first game in 1948, and now so disheartened
it really hurts.,'"
Oh my Goodness, that makes you older than me !! But, I do echo your sentiments exactly... I watched our win against Penrith and the Grand Final against Wigan recently....and how we seem to have fallen.. Lets hope we do get a good coach soon and sort out all the rot that seems to be undermining the club at the moment..The only way is ..Up. (I hope, sincerely)
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"Seems to be a common tale. people improve drastically once they leave us.'"
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Or just the usual case of players trying that 'bit harder' against their former clubs?
On the reverse case, Caro was never given a decent running chance and Thomas, in the threequarters, probably tried too hard and too often tried to go through gaps when he maybe ought to have passed. With no-one organising anything in our ranks, the game was the perfect riposte to anyone who thinks we don't need some halves - and the sooner the better.
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| I'm not even going to bother to talk to anyone who says we don't need halves anymore, if indeed apart from Ferres there is any such living person, which I seriously doubt. What next - we don't need boots?
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| One person playing both half positions.
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| Actions have consequences and for some,they have failed miserably and should walk.Recruitment has been an abject failure and costly...heaven knows what business acumen has been employed.Putting in long hours doesn't profit the Club if the decision making is flawed.So far professionalism is sp on the ground.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I'm not even going to bother to talk to anyone who says we don't need halves anymore, if indeed apart from Ferres there is any such living person, which I seriously doubt. What next - we don't need boots?'"
Agreed. Having said it for 2 years almost, just feels pointless even mentioning the half back situation anymore.
The saving grace is that once we get a new coach we can draw a line under this shambolic first half of the season. As Leigh found out last year, this part of the season counts for little.
We don't have bad players. Its just they're not performing. A good coach can sort this. Welham, Gaskell, Sidlow, Clough, Ferguson, O,brien, Clare are all good SL players. Just need to get the best out of them.
The disgraceful lack of 7 hasn't just caused an issue in creativity, it's caused chaos in our backline with us giving various full backs, wingers, centres, second rowers all a go at playing 7. Hence we've had no consistency in the back line. I don't think we've had the same back 5 play two games in a row all year. That's why we're leaking so many tries out wide. We've not been able to form any partnerships so we lack communication and cohesion.
A decent coach and signing a 7 will transform this team. That's how big a deal it is Mr Ferres! In an ideal world we'll get both sorted, get some consistency in the backline and start playing with a bit of confidence in time for the middles (which is all that counts)
I'm hoping the new coach will get this sorted as Ferres has proved he is completely incompetent in sorting this issue out.
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| Indeed. The large amounts of money charged to the fans to pay for a full time team of a decent level has been criminally squandered, without spending it on what should have been the clear Number One requirement. And it makes it even worse that this is all with us having Gaskell. We have literally pis,sed 2 years of Gaskell in the Championship up against the wall, by not giving him a top scrum half to work with. It makes me poorly.
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| Interim head coach Diskin said: “We had practised exceptionally well all week but mentally we weren’t up to speed today.
“We didn’t carry anything out that we had done on the training pitch – nothing that we did transferred on to the field.
Same old excuses.
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| Some of our players are mentally weak. Whoever takes over as coach has a huge job.
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| With regards to the scrum half situation. Yes, it's poor on behalf of the club not to have replaced Siejka. However, given the timings it's not a huge surprised that we've failed to sign a replacement.
Given Siejka was released in November, the point pre-season starts, then the majority of available 7's would be virtually non-existent. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find any clubs that have signed half backs after this date.
Siejka's first year at Bradford was hardly earth shattering, but he was contracted for a further season, so the club can be forgiven in not seeking a new half back during the off-season. Especially given that at the same time we had Mullaney and Addey able to fill in.
The trouble is, when Mullaney goes we've lost one of our major strike players who has not been replaced (we got through most of last year without a 7 and didn't do badly but we suffered more without Mullaney than Siejka).
There's a lot of negativity towards Ferres for the signings made, however given the budgets he has had to work with, he's managed to assemble a good sized squad with a lot of SL experience and, IMO, has only made 2 poor signings - Mathers and Luakei. I think it's more down to the coach's inability to get the best out of the squad than the signings as the reason we are were we are at.
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| I'd add Baile to the list of guff signings, and maybe Uaisele as well.
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| We need to draw up a list of people to send to Thailand for a racist orgy.
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| Plenty of players have been recruited that have hardly been used or have been used in really odd ways. It’s as if the recruitment was done in a scattergun approach and the coach didn’t know what to do with them.
Baille
Uaisele
Walker
Mathers
Lauaki
Mendieka
Halafihi
Walshaw
Have any of these got to double figures in full appearances?
For me Mullaney has been a huge loss. His girlfriend wanting to go back to Oz at the last minute really left us in the lurch since I think he was earmarked for scrum half. We played some of our best rugby with him there in 2015
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| While i'll accept we may not have had the best of the rub of the green, that is massively offset by
(a) the fact that we are the ONLY rugby league side in the entire world, professional or amateur, that does not have a scrum half; and
(b) we are the ONLY rugby league side in the entire world, professional or amateur, that does not think you need a scrum half
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| You’re right FA. In the past when we’ve lost our kingpin it’s been seen as a priority to get a replacement. When Harkin left we flirted with relegation until we got Deryck Fox. When Fox left we had Robbie and Deacs. Things then took a turn for the worse as we recruited he that shall not be named and then the likes of Herbert and Siejka.
It’s no coincidence that good scrum half can transform a side. A bad one can keep you bumping along but none at all equals disaster.
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| We need Felix the Cat from Toronto. I have no idea what the reason for the delay even is
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"
The trouble is, when Mullaney goes we've lost one of our major strike players who has not been replaced (we got through most of last year without a 7 and didn't do badly but we suffered more without Mullaney than Siejka).
There's a lot of negativity towards Ferres for the signings made, however given the budgets he has had to work with, he's managed to assemble a good sized squad with a lot of SL experience and, IMO, has only made 2 poor signings - Mathers and Luakei. I think it's more down to the coach's inability to get the best out of the squad than the signings as the reason we are were we are at.'"
We played most of last year without a 7 AND JUST FELL SHORT OF PROMOTION. That should have been a big clue to everyone. Ferres has managed to assemble a massive squad many of which we have not seen and still not got either a 7 or a substitue 6 if Gaskell is injured. Surely if you don't have a 7 it is imperative we had a backup 6.
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