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| Rhys Evans to Leeds?!?!
Aaron Bower reporting they're after him, might already have him even. Some Leeds youngsters coming the other way - albeit only on loan deals.
I guess it makes sense for us if he was a relatively high earner (possible) and we need bodies in quite a few positions.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Rhys Evans to Leeds?!?!
Aaron Bower reporting they're after him, might already have him even. Some Leeds youngsters coming the other way - albeit only on loan deals.
I guess it makes sense for us if he was a relatively high earner (possible) and we need bodies in quite a few positions.'"
Tom Holroyd and Sam Walters mentioned as coming the other way.
I'm not so sure more inexperience is what is needed in the Bulls squad, even if they are highly rated prospects.
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| Clubs are really keen to help us out apparently.
Doesn't seem it to me though when they want to take arguably one of our most experienced and better players in exchange for players that might or might not play 20 games for us this season.
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| Is Evans any good? Report mentions we'r paying a 5 figure fee aswel as loaning some youngsters
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Is Evans any good? Report mentions we'r paying a 5 figure fee aswel as loaning some youngsters'"
He did ok for us last season before getting some almost inevitable bad injuries. His record isn't great over the last few seasons in that regard.
I'm surprised you didn't go for Ross Oakes instead tbh. He's younger and a far better centre than Evans.
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| Evans is a good player.
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| Doesn't exactly feel great that we are effectively being 'used' as a means of boosting another team by giving them one of the few experienced players left, whilst providing experience for their young prospects who we won't then get any benefit from
But, I guess that's where we are these days
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Doesn't exactly feel great that we are effectively being 'used' as a means of boosting another team by giving them one of the few experienced players left, whilst providing experience for their young prospects who we won't then get any benefit from
But, I guess that's where we are these days
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I'm still in the air about buying a ST, and the reasons you mention above are probably why I haven't committed yet.
For 2020, replacing experience with 'loan' youngsters has 2017 (and week in, week out thrashings) written all over it. And I'm not doing that again.
Can't blame Evans for going like, but we absolutely are just a feeder team now, and that is really, really sad.
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| I feel this is good business for the Bulls. Injury prone player and one of the highest earners. Some people need to realise we need to become stable and if that means selling good players and loaning youngsters, that’s fine with me.
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| If we’ve got a five figure fee plus 4 players and assuming Evans will have wanted to go when Rhinos come calling I think it’s a good deal. Let’s remember the Rhinos academy is pretty good and I think Holroyd was mentioned as on a par with Oliver Wilson wasn’t he? And whilst I don’t know this how do we know Leeds didn’t say we want Evans or the much rumoured loan of players from Leeds wouldn’t happen?
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| So we take a load of Leeds youngsters on loan, doesn't they basically prevent us on doing much in terms of dual reg, or at least make us pretty unattractive to a dual reg partner since we can only play 4 or 5 anyway?
Not surprising news though, we are getting used to seeing experienced players flogged once the bulk of season tickets sales are in.
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| I think the exodus started a while back!!!!
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"So we take a load of Leeds youngsters on loan, doesn't they basically prevent us on doing much in terms of dual reg, or at least make us pretty unattractive to a dual reg partner since we can only play 4 or 5 anyway?.'"
Should we perhaps assume that we weren't going to get a DR partner?
We kept being promised an announcement, and it's never happened - perhaps whatever options we had fell through, and this was the next best option?
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| Quote ="RickyF1"I feel this is good business for the Bulls. Injury prone player and one of the highest earners. Some people need to realise we need to become stable and if that means selling good players and loaning youngsters, that’s fine with me.'"
Not sure how much money we will be getting. Official statement says he has gone on season long loan
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| Well if we just intend on filling the squad with other clubs young players and loans of players we have flogged then it isn't enticing me to many games I'll be honest.
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| I know! I can’t understand why JK is raiding that pool of well established championship players, all available without clubs and within our budget of £1.50 per match plus a packet of crisps for each win bonus
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| On the Rhinos forum ,one fan has suggested that the loan players might be Walters , Johnson ( a young hooker England Academy) Holroyd ( young 18 stone prop) and possibly Mustapha ( young back row).The latter depends on Leeds securing an overseas signing
To me that would look good business if the loans are long term.
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| Thought the Bulls had announced it was 2 young Leeds players not 4? Given the already youthful squad I don't see any great benefit in letting an experienced player leave to bring in more young players from other clubs. I'd personally rather just give our own a chance if that's where we are at. Obviously some fans will happily pay 20 odd quid to watch anyone in a Bulls shirt and that's their choice. I can't say it's convincing me right now though.
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| Quote ="Betsy Bulls"I know! I can’t understand why JK is raiding that pool of well established championship players, all available without clubs and within our budget of £1.50 per match plus a packet of crisps for each win bonus'"
Ok, but will the prices reflect that? Or are the long suffering fans expected to cough up top 4 prices again to watch us develop players for other clubs? At least when they're our players we can flog them to pay the bills!!
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| IMO this season is a needs must scenario. We can’t recruit as we were too late to the party and we can’t afford to get relegated. We need a team on the pitch that stays up and then we need Sawyer to balance the books and hopefully we then have a bit more money and then the time to recruit properly for 2021 hopefully back in Bradford
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Quote ="Bully_Boxer"So we take a load of Leeds youngsters on loan, doesn't they basically prevent us on doing much in terms of dual reg, or at least make us pretty unattractive to a dual reg partner since we can only play 4 or 5 anyway?
Not surprising news though, we are getting used to seeing experienced players flogged once the bulk of season tickets sales are in.'"
Aren't dual reg and loan players treated differently? Report out just before Christmas said we're closing in on a dual reg deal with Hull FC.
https://www.totalrl.com/bradford-close- ... -reg-deal/
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Not surprising news though, we are getting used to seeing experienced players flogged once the bulk of season tickets sales are in.'"
Aren't dual reg and loan players treated differently? Report out just before Christmas said we're closing in on a dual reg deal with Hull FC.
https://www.totalrl.com/bradford-close- ... -reg-deal/
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| Quote ="DrFeelgood"Aren't dual reg and loan players treated differently?'"
Not massively. You're allowed 5 Loan & Dual Reg players in each 17, only 4 of which can be DR. So you can have 5 Loan or 4 DR & 1 Loan, but you can't have 5 DR. The maximum combined is still 5 though, so if you throw two Leeds loan players in with Rooks & Milnes, that only leaves 1 spot available for a DR player.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Not massively. You're allowed 5 Loan & Dual Reg players in each 17, only 4 of which can be DR. So you can have 5 Loan or 4 DR & 1 Loan, but you can't have 5 DR. The maximum combined is still 5 though, so if you throw two Leeds loan players in with Rooks & Milnes, that only leaves 1 spot available for a DR player.'"
Thanks for clearing that up for me! Also since seen that Hull FC might be DR with Dewsbury anyway, although the source is our in house commentator.
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| Quote ="DrFeelgood"Thanks for clearing that up for me! Also since seen that Hull FC might be DR with Dewsbury anyway, although the source is our in house commentator.'"
Batley rumoured. Hull KR are partnered with Dewsbury.
I just struggle to see how losing a contracted experienced proven player is brilliant business. These young kids might well be great players one day but the Championship is a tough league. Perhaps if the wage saving will be made available to Kear it might be better business. But it all just feels a bit familiar to me of releasing higher profile players once the season ticket sales peaked. Call me cynical...
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