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| Losing 5 players and a 12 point deduction would be tough but I’d accept it over liquidation if we could remain fulltime with the academy intact. We’d be in a relegation battle but we’d know where we are.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Losing 5 players and a 12 point deduction would be tough but I’d accept it over liquidation if we could remain fulltime with the academy intact. We’d be in a relegation battle but we’d know where we are.'"
That's exactly what it is. If all was rosey, I wouldn't want to lose Clare, Welham, Sidlow & O'Brien. Our best hooker and centre by a country mile, our most consistent prop, and a very good utility back. However there are bigger things going on to deal with and the club (and academy) existing is much more important than ANY player at the club.
As has been said, I don't blame the players for moving on, especially the likes of O'Brien who has been through this more than once now and had his confidence dented last year when the new coach came in. It is a shame, but there are bigger worries right now.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Well yes I was going to stop short of apportioning blame on the players but you cannot get away from the fact that they have to shoulder some of the responsibility for the mess. I'm sure many gave it their best, but as a squad they should have finished in the top 4 fairly comfortable. All that being said, they don't deserve to be going without pay when they have families to look after.'"
I agree.
I think there was only the home thrashing at the hands of Sheffield (Lowes last game) where actual physical effort was lacking. In the other games it wasn’t so much of a lack of physical effort but a mental thing. Players were playing as individuals and not using their brains on the field. Add to that the lack of proper playmakers (“we don’t need a scrum half!”) and a lot of hard work went to waste. When that happens players can try too hard, lose composure or get frustrated. The many games where we never looked like creating anything or building pressure are examples of that.
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| As today is the latest D- (E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L...) Day can I suggest the mods sharpen their claws to ensure we don't have any twitter like hysteria until things - if anything - are confirmed?
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| What time are we expecting the announcement that there's not going to be an announcement today anyway?
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| I am not too concerned at losing a hand full of players as long as we survive - hopefully in the championship.
If the club were to come through this and it is very clear that they are on secure footings for a few years then other players will come available rather than sitting on benches and not getting games.
The players for me that we must keep to give us any chance are Chisolm, Moss and Pryce as they are our play makers. O'Brien should also come into that as he has spent the pre-season being the play the ball lynch pin.
We would pick up other players with the help of uncle Tony.
We wouldn't get relegated as take out the top 6 clubs and the rest are very ordinary. Keeping two thirds of the current players plus all of the youngsters and finish mid table I would be satisfied with that - for the time being.
Fingers crossed today. For me its either get a decent owner to secures our future so we can build or close. There is no middle road for me that leads to this again in 2 years time. It has come down to survive properly or allow to die for me.
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| Weirdly, I'm going to be uncomfortable with anything other than liquidation. I just can't deal with going through this over and over again, and any hopes that I had for a new owner with any actual money are pretty much gone. Obviously, if someone with £400m to burn was to get the club then I'd be ecstatic, but Mark Green mk II would be a complete disaster.
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| While I’d love our future to be sorted out one way or another today I can’t help but feel it’ll be another false dawn.
We certainly don't want another owner with no money as it'll be Admin 4 "The Final Cut" within a year.
However liquidation would be a disaster too. No more RL? What would I do with myself?
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| It always seems to be the fans that do turn up that get blamed. I remember being blamed for not drinking enough inside the ground. No account was taken of the fact that I had driven over from the East Coast to attend matches and that perhaps it was not a good idea to get bladdered bedfore driving on the motorway. It was this comment that confirmed MG was in do-do's
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"What time are we expecting the announcement that there's not going to be an announcement today anyway?'"
Administrator meeting players and staff at dinner time.
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| Applying Greens logic, I wonder if we all promise to buy cars from JCT600 Jack would come back and rescue us?
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| Quote ="KCNBABT"Administrator meeting players and staff at dinner time.'"
A few hours to kick back then!
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"It always seems to be the fans that do turn up that get blamed. I remember being blamed for not drinking enough inside the ground. No account was taken of the fact that I had driven over from the East Coast to attend matches and that perhaps it was not a good idea to get bladdered bedfore driving on the motorway. It was this comment that confirmed MG was in do-do's'"
If anyone could be bothered to look back and find the posts, they'll see just how irritated I was with that "you're not spending enough money" statement that came from Green. It was then made even worse when they started opening the turnstiles later and closing more bars/concession stands, making it take longer to queue to get something in the ground. Whilst stuff like that won't necessarily stop me attending games (I certainly haven't missed a home game in a long time now), it does alienate me from the idiot in charge who clearly doesn't know how to engage with the fans properly. It certainly had the opposite effect from me wanting to spend more money.
If Green does get it back, I'm going to be essentially in a catatonic state from now on. I'll still attend, I'll still have a pint, I'll still buy the shirts. But all the while I'll struggle to get excited over any games and I'll be on cruise control just waiting for the next administration.
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| Just out of interest, if the club is liquidated and there are 2 or 3 parties interested in starting a new club, who decides which person gets the nod? Would they need to put a business plan in to the RFL for them to decide?
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| Quote ="KCNBABT"Administrator meeting players and staff at dinner time.'"
Given Pet-tit ain't from rahnd 'ere is that a southern dinner time or a proper Northern dinner-time?
And won't it mean Big Nige will be absent as it clashes with a feeding time?
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| Meeting was meant to be this morning.
What a surprise.
I don't expect anything major this afternoon now.
If it's the return of Green then I'll be amazed after all that's gone on.
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| Quote ="Scarey71"And won't it mean Big Nige will be absent as it clashes with a feeding time?'"
Looking at Nige, I think every time of the day clashes with a feeding time.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"
If Green does get it back, I'm going to be essentially in a catatonic state from now on. I'll still attend, I'll still have a pint, I'll still buy the shirts. But all the while I'll struggle to get excited over any games and I'll be on cruise control just waiting for the next administration.'"
Welcome to our world!
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| Quote ="KCNBABT"Administrator meeting players and staff at dinner time.'"
Well at least the players [iSHOULD[/i be the first to find out rather than by social media this time.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Well at least the players [iSHOULD[/i be the first to find out rather than by social media this time.'"
Assuming the meeting is to actually give them any info. It could just be a "things are progressing, we're still doing due dilligence, you're not going to be paid any time soon so stop asking me, happy new year!".
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| If green does somehow retake control, despite not passing fit and proper, I imagine a lot of he rumoured players leaving will continue as I can't imagine the players being happy with him in charge again after this
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| Quote ="Scarey71"Applying Greens logic, I wonder if we all promise to buy cars from JCT600 Jack would come back and rescue us?'"
I've been doing my weekly shop at Morrison's for years but its never resulted in Sir Ken opening his wallet for us
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"Weirdly, I'm going to be uncomfortable with anything other than liquidation. I just can't deal with going through this over and over again, and any hopes that I had for a new owner with any actual money are pretty much gone. '"
I feel the same to be honest
I'm not getting my hopes up that someone with real money to put into the club will buy us. And I just can't get excited about the whole 'so long as we have a club, I'll be happy' line that a lot of posters are saying. Going into another season in the Championship with no real hope of promotion, and just waiting for the next Administration, doesn't exactly thrill.
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| I have just about resigned myself to Liquidation, if the club did start again with another owner, who in their right mind would want to play for a club with our track record of Administration's
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"I've been doing my weekly shop at Morrison's for years but its never resulted in Sir Ken opening his wallet for us'"
I'm that pedantic, I haven't shopped at Morribob's since he screwed the Tesco deal for us. Especially after reading that he was looking forward to watching his 'beloved Bulls' in his retirement...but that's a whole other thread many moons ago...
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