It certainly has

70k rent doesn't on the face of it sound like a lot. It's only £1 per person per match.

I get that Odsal is old but how much does it deteriorate each year that means we have to psy out an excess amount of money on maintenance? Does anyone have any examples of such outlays that we've had to make?

Genuine questions. I'm not here for a windup. My opionion is that long term we need a new stadium.

Agree with you, a modern stand and the corporate stand can't cost that much to maintain, the rest of it is concrete

Clare definitely gone, Welham definitely gone and others on the way. Even if the team survive they will be missing players who contributed over a 3rd of their total tries from last season. Let's hope Rohan has worked on the defence because it's not looking like they will score as many points themselves.

Gutted we're losing both but totally understandble. We are quite well equipped in the backs. Ethan Ryan is class and with Welham gone i suppose it gives an opportunity for Ross Oakes.

I'd be more gutted if we lose some of our academy players.

Anyway at the moment i'm still praying we've got a club this time. tomorrow. The worry of the quality of players left over can wait.

Yep, I'm not losing any sleep on player departures right now. We need a club first and foremost. We have some decent young lads that could cover departures in the short term if required.

I don't know about the Bulls but it costs Wakefield around 125K a year in maintenance on top of the annual rent to the bank of Ireland, which at one point was 10K a month. This is now less than half that but the ground repairs bill remains. I imagine with Odsal being a bigger ground the costing won't be any less than that.

According to gledhill both were training with bradford today Which probably confirms nothing

the council got rid of Odsal to the Bulls because of the high maintenance costs, they give us the 150 year lease and £5million which was to cover the upkeep of the stadium until 2020, unfortunately someone decided to build the Coral Stand with that money, then sell the lease for peanuts to the RFL and landed them with an annual bill for 70k, plus upkeep of ground which the council had been splashing over 300k per year on even 15 years ago. Some great business done by the Bulls custodians.

Clare to Leigh
Welham to Salford
Sidlow to Featherstone
Olbison has offers from Halifax and Batley
O'Brien wants out.

Players told chance of Liquidation tomorrow.

Clare definitely was at Tong today to say his goodbyes.

Would you be happy throwing in the U19s lads?

I think its time for your latest bidder to step up to the plate.Or he/she will also leave with nothing.

If Clare, Welham and Sidlow go it will be a blow but not the end of the world. Providing we have a team in the Champ next season:

Caro, Macani and Ryan are good enough to score plenty at this level. Campbell as back up.
Walton gets a chance to step up with Foster in the . Oakes as back up (gets more gametime) and Mendieka.
In the prop department the key for me is keeping Kavanagh, Joseph, Magrin and Peltier (he especially has shown the right attitude). That's 4 props who can do a great job in the Champ. Kirk more gametime too.

The major players for me to keep is Moss, Pryce, Chisholm, Keyes, O'Brien, Mellor and Olbison. That is still a great spine and we can build around that.

If O'Brien goes we don't have strong enough hookers in Lumb and Halafihi in my opinion. Moss, Pryce, Chisholm and Keyes speaks for itself really. And Mellor, Olbison and Burr as the backrow/lock is still strong!

I wont get chance to check back on here till later tonight, but I'm fully expecting the liquidation now



Being a Bulls fan - I'll set my expectations as low as possible and that way it wont hurt as much.

The next saga is will anything rise from the phoenix?

I dont blame any player who leaves the club due to this latest fiasco; they have families to support so they cant be expected to be treated like this.

As fans, we are getting pretty used to being tried like mushrooms, but liquidation will be a new low for most of us.

Look on the positive - at least any Bulls stuff we bought over the years maybe come collectible items in 20 years?

But yes - I'd definitely prefer to have a Bulls RL club to support than a collection of memorabilia.

Fingers crossed for everyone

Assuming they're ready or at least physically ready, then no problem. We probably need to shed a few high earners from the squad that failed last year anyway. Let's see what today brings, it might all be over with by end of play today anyway.

Great to be back eh?

You could almost say [isome[/i of those rumoured to be leaving played a large part in digging the hole we are in now...

Had we got top 4 it's unlikely we'd be here. Green may be lots of things but the failure of that squad to deal with the championship helped, massively, to drop us in the mire.

So whilst I have a load of sympathy for their plight they also need to remember that whilst Ferres and green were making the bed, they were happily fluffing the pillows.

Like we have never been away. Another day of refreshing twitter!!!!

The only thing Green has done well at is bringing Rohan in as coach which i feel was a good move but we may not see the reward of it.

Agreed. The way many of the current squad played latterly under Lowes and then in the debacle at Fev was a big reason for us being where we are. Wherever they go I hope those clubs don’t expect too much from them, however I don’t blame anyone for leaving.

Hopefully today will be the end of it one way or another. I suspect it will just carry on until we have no squad left. Then we’ll either scrape survival to end up relegated or be liquidated and that’ll be it.

12 point deduction and loss of 5 players will not make it easy to make the playoffs.
Not as bad as if there is no club mind...

12 point deduction would be pretty much impossible for top 4. If Leigh had that many points taken from them in 2015 (they lost 1 and drew 1) they would have finished on 31 points and finished 5th. Real backs against the wall season (if we survive) but then we aim to finish as high as we can and defend that Shield!

Well yes I was going to stop short of apportioning blame on the players but you cannot get away from the fact that they have to shoulder some of the responsibility for the mess. I'm sure many gave it their best, but as a squad they should have finished in the top 4 fairly comfortable. All that being said, they don't deserve to be going without pay when they have families to look after.

Well if we still have a club this time next week, I think expectations are going to have to be lowered for the season ahead. Let's worry about the immediate threat first though.