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| Quote ="darulgee"Is the "only 50% of a players wage counts on the salary cap when they have been at the club for 10 years" still in play? Or have I just made that up? Leeds have quite a few long serving players, I'm sure plenty would count if the rule is in play. I also imagine they will have a large amount of ££ ready for new signings wages.
Fair play to them for trying to sign a good player the correct way. I now understand why Hetherington was being so nice to the Bulls not so long ago!'"
I think the 50% of a players salary is still 'in play', although it's only available for 1 player per team. The Bulls probably only have Langley that falls into this category.
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| Yet another article coming out of the Bulls + TnA giving primacy of status to the Leeds club.
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| Quote ="darulgee"Is the "only 50% of a players wage counts on the salary cap when they have been at the club for 10 years" still in play? Or have I just made that up? Leeds have quite a few long serving players, I'm sure plenty would count if the rule is in play. I also imagine they will have a large amount of ££ ready for new signings wages.
Fair play to them for trying to sign a good player the correct way. I now understand why Hetherington was being so nice to the Bulls not so long ago!'"
Nearly right. Rule your referring to is that 50% or 50k (whichevers lower) of a players wage who's served 10yrs doesn't count. But your only allowed 50k total allowance across the entire squad. So if more than one player qualifies the allowance is shared between them. In our case only Langley qualifies so assuming he's on 100k or more then 50k of that doesn't count towards the salary cap. Doesn't really matter until we're spending right up to cap, which we didn't do last year and aren't anywhere close to this year yet. Leeds have several players that qualify but they still only get 50k allowance overall.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Yet another article coming out of the Bulls + TnA giving primacy of status to the Leeds club.'"
How does it give any primacy to Leeds. They made an offer, we refused it. Don't see what problem is.
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| WTF is "giving primacy of status" anyway? And I'm all for brave talk, but it's a bit Black Knightesque, isn't it, to genuinely try to claim that we are at the moment anywhere near "equal in status" to Leeds? SL Champions versus club just out of administration that hasn't even made the playoffs in several seasons?
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Yet another article coming out of the Bulls + TnA giving primacy of status to the Leeds club.'"
I think Bulls should make a audacious bid for Watkins, Hardaker, Ward & BJB from Leeds. It's not got a hope in hell of succeeding, but it will show ambition.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"WTF is "giving primacy of status" anyway? And I'm all for brave talk, but it's a bit Black Knightesque, isn't it, to genuinely try to claim that we are at the moment anywhere near "equal in status" to Leeds? SL Champions versus club just out of administration that hasn't even made the playoffs in several seasons?'"
There's no need for brave talk, in the same way that in the run up to a season ticket deadline there's no need for 3 articles about the Leeds Rhinos. Nobody's trying to make the case that we're of equal status to the Rhinos I just don't think it's the job of the club and the local paper to repeatedly make the case that we're not.
More to the point what is the benefit of it? Lulia was staying at Bradford yesterday morning and he's staying at Bradford now. All that's been done is raise the issue of him being wanted by a bigger, more successful club.
Just to add further context less than a fortnight after FC and Stuart Duffy went to visit GH to learn about dealing with agents and negotiating with players, Hetherington makes a bid for one of our best players.
Even, “Leeds made an approach through the correct channels".
It's not Black Knightesque, it's borderline obsequious.
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| being a bit more cynical than the usual suspects have, the story "Bulls completely and utterly Reject unwelcome bid for star centre Lulia, around whom the team is being built, from hated rivals Leeds" is news whereas the story "Lulia completes second year of his contract" is no news. Its season ticket selling time as alluded to by one poster, if theres one thing they have learnt from Hetherington this is it. how to make a pr mountain out of a molehill.
And if we were to sell, I would hope we got Ryan Bailey as part of the deal, no point having a good strong running centre if he never has the ball.
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"being a bit more cynical than the usual suspects have, the story "Bulls completely and utterly Reject unwelcome bid for star centre Lulia, around whom the team is being built, from hated rivals Leeds" is news whereas the story "Lulia completes second year of his contract" is no news. Its season ticket selling time as alluded to by one poster, if theres one thing they have learnt from Hetherington this is it. how to make a pr mountain out of a molehill.
And if we were to sell, I would hope we got Ryan Bailey as part of the deal, no point having a good strong running centre if he never has the ball.'"
Thing we'll never know is whether club would have made this public at all if Parker hadn't highlighted it in league express. The rumour was out in open so club acted to quash it. If they hadn't done that then rumour would have persisted and damaged ticket sales. Case of being damned whatever option they took IMO.
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| free publicity is good publicity, so not damned at all this way. In fact I would like to hear confirmation that L'Estrange and Kearney are not going anywhere either, can somebody start rumours please?
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"free publicity is good publicity, so not damned at all this way. In fact I would like to hear confirmation that L'Estrange and Kearney are not going anywhere either, can somebody start rumours please?'"
Personally I would not be too bothered if Kearney WAS to go. Kear into his favoured better role at FB and money spent elsewhere would be fine by me.
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| Why did bitter stuart Duffy release that Leeds had made an offer? He was quoted as saying Bradford had turned down an offer from the Rhino's. Short of stories is he? or is he like usual merely mixing a bottle. Twisting the truth in order to make bulls fans go on the attack of rhino's. why does bradford always mislead the fans??
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| Quote ="Debulls"Why did bitter stuart Duffy release that Leeds had made an offer? He was quoted as saying Bradford had turned down an offer from the Rhino's. Short of stories is he? or is he like usual merely mixing a bottle. Twisting the truth in order to make bulls fans go on the attack of rhino's. why does bradford always mislead the fans??'"
I think they need to adjust your medication.
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| This forum really does attract some total nut jobs.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I think Bulls should make a audacious bid for Watkins, Hardaker, Ward & BJB from Leeds. It's not got a hope in hell of succeeding, but it will show ambition.'"
How on [iearth[/i did you know about that?? I hope it wasn't Duffers being indiscreet on his Twitter account. Heads will roll...
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| Quote ="Debulls"Why did bitter stuart Duffy release that Leeds had made an offer? He was quoted as saying Bradford had turned down an offer from the Rhino's. Short of stories is he? or is he like usual merely mixing a bottle. Twisting the truth in order to make bulls fans go on the attack of rhino's. why does bradford always mislead the fans??'"
Just ever so slightly over cooked.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Just ever so slightly over cooked.
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I do find it strange that Bullsfab! is no longer posting, and seems to have been replaced by another 'cretin/brand new user' who seems to have the same vendetta against Duffy?
Hmmmmm....... Let me think............
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Personally I would not be too bothered if Kearney WAS to go. Kear into his favoured better role at FB and money spent elsewhere would be fine by me.'"
Eh are you right in the head most of our attacking play comes threw Kearney . Especially if the scrum or half back are not playing well.I feel of need Kearney more now that Jeffries has gone we need a solid link with Gale. And we all know sammut can blow hot and cold sometimes
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| Quote ="Noah100"Eh are you right in the head most of our attacking play comes threw Kearney . Especially if the scrum or half back are not playing well.I feel of need Kearney more now that Jeffries has gone we need a solid link with Gale. And we all know sammut can blow hot and cold sometimes'"
Fully agree - last year I was a bit disappointed with Kearney, but this year he has been immense. His positioning for the oppositions 5th tackle has really improved, and as you say, his attacking play will be key for us next year.
Let's not forget that we have a bright, young prospect signed up who plays FB. I would be wanting Kearney around to help the lad reach his full potential.
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| Quote ="Debulls"Why did bitter stuart Duffy release that Leeds had made an offer? He was quoted as saying Bradford had turned down an offer from the Rhino's. Short of stories is he? or is he like usual merely mixing a bottle. Twisting the truth in order to make bulls fans go on the attack of rhino's. why does bradford always mislead the fans??'"
You are taking the bad news too far now. Time to move on.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"You are taking the bad news too far now. Time to move on.'"
I'm pretty sure that's Hetherington's chat up line.
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| Quote ="daveyz999"I do find it strange that Bullsfab! is no longer posting, and seems to have been replaced by another 'cretin/brand new user' who seems to have the same vendetta against Duffy?
Hmmmmm....... Let me think............'"
Bahaha
I'm still here pal. Dumb wit
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| Quote ="vbfg"I'm pretty sure that's Hetherington's chat up line.'"
Gaz or Kaff?
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| Quote ="zapperbull"Excellent news that he is staying, i just wonder how Leeds can afford him and keep under the salary cap!'"
That's for others to decide whether it could be done, and I've little doubt Leeds would not be making an offer if it could not be done.
"He's a bit good" as my grandad used to say of players he admired.
He might get even gooder next season.
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| Well we are busy abusing adjectives I am sure he will be gooder for us next year and badder for them! I always take it as a completement when we have players other "top" clubs want to sign.
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